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  • hectari
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    #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    intangibles come into play when you have tangibles that make the fight close. His lack of tangibles-experience, experience at ww and quality competition, coupled with the fact Manny's trainer just go to watch him over 12 rds in a real fight against someone slower, less talented, and with less power than manny mitigates whatever "intangible" argument you are pretending is valid.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAHAHA H

    Dunn just said Ruslan has less Power than Manny, the same guy that Bradley said gave him a concussion and hit him harder than Manny and Marquez.

    okay.

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    • hectari
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      #62
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      sparring is not a real fight. it has no relevance.

      Also stylistically he is a nightmare for Manny, don't you agree? no.

      did he look good when he fought running man version of Mosley? no, but he won almost via shutout. Not looking good and not winning are 2 different things.

      If you are so sure-lets bet all our points or the loser doesn't come back to NSB for a whole year.

      everytime you go on these rants I ask you to back it up and you never do. that tells all of us what your real agenda is behind this stuff Hec.
      Dunn so Chris back stepping movement and not standing still is not a stylistic nightmare for Pac? please explain in depth your reasoning for this.

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      • hectari
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        #63
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Manny fans talk **** about Floyd fighting Maidana, but here's the funny thing. He had a choice between a tough Argentinian fighter @ 147 in Abregu, who has only lost to Bradley, or a nobody in Algeri who beat Provodnikov @ 140. Look which one he chose. Khan is out the picture because of Haymon/Arum feud, but I would've loved to have seen that fight too!
        I would have loved to see the Khan vs. Pac fight as well, but you embarrassed yourself with your comment.

        you said Pac had the choice of a tough Argentinian fighter at 147 who LOST to Bradley, yet you call Algeiri a nobody who just BEAT Ruslan Provodnikov who wasa the next opponent for Pac and most feared man at 147 who beat Bradley up worse than anyone and Bradley had easy work with Abregu.

        So Algieri who has a title and beat one of the best most feared pressure fighters at 140 is a NOBODY yet Abregu is somebody even though he lost to Bradley and has no title at 147? yeah okay.

        Good logic there. Seems like you are grasping at straws.

        As I recall there was an article on here about Abregu possibly being the next opponent of Pac and he had some haters on there.


        Originally posted by - Righteous -
        Hectari you do realize Algieri has zero amateur boxing experience right. He basically started boxing in his 20s lol

        If you don't realize this isn't going to be more than a sparring session for Pac, then ydksab.
        Righteous do you realize Nate Campbell had no amateur experience right he slapped boxed in a super market and decided to turn pro at age of 28.

        Also you do know Manny Pacquiao had no amateur background right he turned pro at 16.

        Also you do know Sergio Martinez had no real amateur background and turned pro at 21?

        I heard Julio Cesar Chavez never had an amateur background, did Canelo have one? Didn't they turn pro in their teens and learn on the job?

        Rocky Marciano had no real amateur background either, all these guys listed above had no real amateur background meaning zero am fights or under 20 fights in the ams before they turned pro.

        So again what is your point?

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          #64
          Originally posted by hectari
          Dunn so Chris back stepping movement and not standing still is not a stylistic nightmare for Pac? please explain in depth your reasoning for this.
          no. the reasoning is Manny has fought opponents who do this better than Chris and he won by a large margin. He just didn't get a KO.

          Are you prepared to back up your opinion with a bet?

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          • Evol
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            #65
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            intangibles come into play when you have tangibles that make the fight close. His lack of tangibles-experience, experience at ww and quality competition, coupled with the fact Manny's trainer just go to watch him over 12 rds in a real fight against someone slower, less talented, and with less power than manny mitigates whatever "intangible" argument you are pretending is valid.
            i was holding back but come on dunn!!! this was the exact same reason why i was against a pac vs ruslan match up because roach ******** trains BOTH of them!! and now u're here making this excuse that its not fair since roach got a chance to figure algieri out already but u were all in for a ruslan vs pac match up.

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              #66
              Originally posted by hectari
              Righteous do you realize Nate Campbell had no amateur experience right he slapped boxed in a super market and decided to turn pro at age of 28.

              Also you do know Manny Pacquiao had no amateur background right he turned pro at 16.

              Also you do know Sergio Martinez had no real amateur background and turned pro at 21?

              I heard Julio Cesar Chavez never had an amateur background, did Canelo have one? Didn't they turn pro in their teens and learn on the job?

              Rocky Marciano had no real amateur background either, all these guys listed above had no real amateur background meaning zero am fights or under 20 fights in the ams before they turned pro.

              So again what is your point?

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Evol
                  i was holding back but come on dunn!!! this was the exact same reason why i was against a pac vs ruslan match up because roach ******** trains BOTH of them!! and now u're here making this excuse that its not fair since roach got a chance to figure algieri out already but u were all in for a ruslan vs pac match up.
                  when did I say it wasn't fair? I cited it as a factor that mitigates the ridiculous stylistic problems you, hectari and other manny fans are trying to pretend exists.

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                  • hectari
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    no. the reasoning is Manny has fought opponents who do this better than Chris and he won by a large margin. He just didn't get a KO.

                    Are you prepared to back up your opinion with a bet?
                    Dunn get out of here with that Bet crap, lol, you the same guy who rejected a bet when you got called out saying you don't bet on knockouts when you said Pac would either drop or knockout Chris.

                    LOL Mosley ran but he threw no shots, chris will actually pepper Pac with jabs.

                    Also you lost my attention when you said Pacman hits harder than Ruslan, even after Bradley said Ruslan hits harder than Pac, Bradley said Ruslan, than Marquez, and than Pacquiao in that order in terms of the 3 when it comes to power.

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                    • hectari
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by - Righteous -
                      I hope you are laughing at yourself because I just presented you facts when you made the ridiculous claim that because Chris has no Amateur background he has no shot, I listed you some great fighters who became champion with little to no amateur background.

                      So you lost all credibility nobody can defeat me in debate here, I always counter with intelligence and class.

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