Since 2009, how many fights will Pac have fought with a ranked opp at the weight

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  • Pac14
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    #41
    Bull****. He fought an avoidable fighter in Clottey who lost to Cotto in a very-very close fight, some people felt he won. Pac beat up Cotto prior to this. Marquez was a very difficult style for Manny but he still fought him 4 times. He fought an elite undefeated fighter in Bradley and beat him 2 times. He fought hard puncher in Rios after Manny was knocked out, Rios outweighted him by 9 pounds. Margarito - by 16 pounds. Mosley was still a big name fighter. Now Manny fights undefeated champion who just beat beast in Provodnikov. What else do you need *****? I gues you sucking Floyds **** right now, creating such ****** threads. Now look at the facts about this ***** Floyd. Ducked Cotto, ducked 12 million fight with Margarito to fight Baldomir with 11 losses. Manny fought Cotto and Margarito and beat Cotto a way more convincingly. Floyd fought Judah coming of a loss to Baldomir. Fought Demarcus Corley coming of a loss to Judah. Some of his opponents after Castillo: Victoriano Sosa, Phillip Ndou, Henry Bruseles. Have you you ever heard of this guys you *******? Fought Marquez coming overweight on weigh in. Overall had been in retirement for YEARS. The fact is he will NEVER fight Bradley, he would never have fought Margarito or Clottey or Cotto before Pac bit him. He ducks Pac. Go suck Floyds **** some more you *****. Heres your quietest threat *****es. **** you haters!!! I hate you!!!

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    • betmen
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      #42
      Originally posted by jose.sooto
      So you saying it's ok for fighter to move up? what if Danny gets the Floyd fight in may 2015? i mean Danny is the king at 140 so by your logic he should fight the 147 king right?
      of course you halfwit, isn't that what past ATG did in their's era?
      Danny should move to WW asap, he clearly conquer LWW and has difficulty making 140lbs in the last fight. he still young, had the right body frame and the skill to do it right.
      he got no bussiness left at 140lbs, is time for him to step-up and challenge the two big dogs.

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      • fighter1234
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        #43
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Hater trying to make excuses. Lets not forget that at the time Bradley was considered a tougher fight than Cotto was for floyd.
        Floyd was sittin g on the sofa which is easier.
        LOL. Bradley a tougher fight than Cotto? Says who? If you mean relative to the opponent like saying Bradley is tougher for Pac than Cotto is to Mayweather, then ok. But I seriously hope you don't mean that Bradley is a tougher overall opponent!

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        • MindBat
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          #44
          Originally posted by straightleft
          Pac fighting at welterweight where his body and frame not even belongs there were just icing on the cake. Pac overall wins at welterweight alone sh it on the coward overalll resume. Floyd best wins (not including the weight cheating -Marquez, weight draining - Canelo, sucker punching - Ortiz and glove b!tching - Maidana) were against Oscar, Haton, Cotto and Mosley. We already know how a former flyweight champ Pac easily disposed them while the coward went life and death against them. Well unless you think beating Guerrero was his greatest win of all time. LMAO!

          If Pac is not that great, your boy is totally a garbage coward.
          Let's just say Pac's career was strategically guided to where he is today.

          When Floyd was reigning champ at welter, Manny lingered at the lower weights until Floyd
          "retired". Manny was then quickly moved up to welter by uncle Bob figuring Floyd is gone for good, and Manny can clean out the division until that is... Floyd decides to make comeback.

          That's when panic set in throughout Top Rank and the beloved "cash cow". The mere mention of blood and urine testing sent them running for the mountains.

          Manny and company had to safe face by staying at welter lest he be called a "ducker" for refusing to fight Floyd who was still on top.

          So, why not refuse random PED testing instead while making it appear Floyd is afraid to fight?

          That is, until he rolled the dice one too many times against Marquez.

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          • jayblack
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            #45
            Originally posted by straightleft
            Pac fighting at welterweight where his body and frame not even belongs there were just icing on the cake. Pac overall wins at welterweight alone sh it on the coward overalll resume. Floyd best wins (not including the weight cheating -Marquez, weight draining - Canelo, sucker punching - Ortiz and glove b!tching - Maidana) were against Oscar, Haton, Cotto and Mosley. We already know how a former flyweight champ Pac easily disposed them while the coward went life and death against them. Well unless you think beating Guerrero was his greatest win of all time. LMAO!

            If Pac is not that great, your boy is totally a garbage coward.
            Your response was an epic fail. You blurted out a resume at WW and above that ****s on Pac's resume from ww and above.

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            • MindBat
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              #46
              Originally posted by Pac14
              Bull****. He fought an avoidable fighter in Clottey who lost to Cotto in a very-very close fight, some people felt he won. Pac beat up Cotto prior to this. Marquez was a very difficult style for Manny but he still fought him 4 times. He fought an elite undefeated fighter in Bradley and beat him 2 times. He fought hard puncher in Rios after Manny was knocked out, Rios outweighted him by 9 pounds. Margarito - by 16 pounds. Mosley was still a big name fighter. Now Manny fights undefeated champion who just beat beast in Provodnikov. What else do you need *****? I gues you sucking Floyds **** right now, creating such ****** threads. Now look at the facts about this ***** Floyd. Ducked Cotto, ducked 12 million fight with Margarito to fight Baldomir with 11 losses. Manny fought Cotto and Margarito and beat Cotto a way more convincingly. Floyd fought Judah coming of a loss to Baldomir. Fought Demarcus Corley coming of a loss to Judah. Some of his opponents after Castillo: Victoriano Sosa, Phillip Ndou, Henry Bruseles. Have you you ever heard of this guys you *******? Fought Marquez coming overweight on weigh in. Overall had been in retirement for YEARS. The fact is he will NEVER fight Bradley, he would never have fought Margarito or Clottey or Cotto before Pac bit him. He ducks Pac. Go suck Floyds **** some more you *****. Heres your quietest threat *****es. **** you haters!!! I hate you!!!
              Quit yer cryin' Clottey was right to go into his shell or he would've crapped all over Manny's Nike shoes, the ring and the ref's pants.

              Cotto is on video straight up i claiming he needs to talk to his promoter before facing Floyd.

              After Margarito got demolished by Shane, he was relegated to a walking punching bag with a heart, and a semi cracked chin.

              Rios was a walking heavy bag who couldn't be knocked down or out. Everybody acknowledges that.

              Provodnikov is another come foward, face first fighter with a heart and a solid chin.

              Do you see a pattern yet?

              So who's Algieri?

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              • JaYDeuce11
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                #47
                Its fact Pacs opposition has been on downhill since 2009.
                Should've never fought Clottey, Mosley, Margarito, Marquez IV (The 3rd wasn't overdone yet) ,
                Pac fighting Algeri is prob the worst thing I've seen from Top Rank
                He could have taken a stand and become a leader by breaking the "Cold War" by fighting Amir Khan, Guerrero, Garcia, Matthyse but instead is a complete idiot and money chaser listening to whatever Bob wants.

                The true leader is Bernard Hopkins for breaking the cold war and fighting Kovalov on HBO

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by strykr619
                  I love revisionist history...

                  Before Manny beat Oscar...... Bad Match up too big for Manny (Oscar quits)
                  Before Manny beat Cotto...... see above (Cotto gets TKOed)
                  Before Manny beat Margarito see above (Marg gets Brutalized)
                  Before Manny beat Mosley... see above (after getting knocked down running
                  started running to not get KOed).

                  I should keep trying but clearly I don't need to....
                  You do love revisionist history because your post is full of it.

                  Other than that Oscar fight Pacquaio was favoured to win all of those fights.

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                  • DARKSEID
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                    #49
                    I don't know about you guys but I thought Clottey beat Cotto, and he was beating Margarito before he broke his hands. He also beat Baldomir minus the DQ.



                    He's won every fight since. Pacquiao is the only guy that beat him decisively.
                    Last edited by DARKSEID; 08-13-2014, 10:51 AM.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #50
                      Since Cotto it's been pretty disappointing but his hype was at his peak at that point and his team wisely capitalized. The Margarito and Mosley bouts were almost revolting but were also lucrative. And the third Marquez fight was a cherry pick gone bad. I have no complaints regarding Bradley. Rios and Algieri? Yikes.

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