Since 2009, how many fights will Pac have fought with a ranked opp at the weight

[Strategic1]

I love when people try to discredit Pac. He's an ATG. Get over it. Now enjoy the rest of the debate. I have shit to do.

/End thread.

yep.

And Judging by the amount of haters, I'd say PAC's career has been very successful.

More success, more haters... It just works out like that.

Truth is, any guy going against Floyd or Manny won't look impressive coming in. That's just how it is.

Manny fought another HOF guy who was a stylistic nightmare for him 4 times... 4 Times! ...

PAC beat Bradley in the rematch who just beat JMM. Both Bradley and JMM ranked P4P.

******ity.

[Divine Hammer]

this is not a floyd vs pac thread address what was stated in the fist post

Quality over quantity always.

[Deeznuts]

correction he's not an alltime great..u must be talking about floyd mayweather the best ever...pac resume is garbage..fighting old,wash-up,weight drained,one dimensional fighters doesnt make u great..hes not even HOF worthy

Tell me why you mad again Tim?

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

exactly, what i thought u guys would do, nobody is dis*****g him being great smh u guys are something else

[Strategic1]

Given the options, PAC fought the best that was AVAILABLE to him in Top Ranks 140-147lb stable.

[Divine Hammer]

Cotto ranked #2 best welterweight
Clottey ranked #5 best welterweight
Mosley ranked #2 best welterweight
Bradley ranked #2 best welterweight

Pac only been at welterweight for 5 years now.

[Masters01]

Lol Manny's competition has been awesome. Coming from a small division from beating ATGs Barrera, Morales and Marquez to going all the up to 150 and whopping on huge guys like Margarito and Cotto.

And Bradley x2 > All of Floyd's opponents from all weight divisions. I couldnt care less if Guerrero or Ortiz was ranked joint no.1 at the time lol.

[Strategic1]

As far as I'm concerned...
Guerrero, Clottey, Ortiz, Margarito, Maidana, Rios, Hatton, Mosley, Marquez, Cotto.. are all comparable in terms of level of competition.

They were all legit contenders, champs or past welter champs,

Mayweather vs Canelo was the best matchup of the bunch. Unfortunate, it had to be at a catchweight. But it was a very impressive win for Floyd.
PAC vs Cotto was also just as great, ..catchweight as well.
PAC vs Bradley is the next best impressive win.

Like I said, anyone going against Floyd or Manny look 2nd tier. OP needs to realize and respect the skill to beat the competition at this level. This is world class competition.

[soul_survivor]

Victor Ortiz has never been a P4P guy, i don't know where you got that from. Ortiz was rightfully ranked as a top 5 welterweight in the world after beating undefeated WBC 147 champion Andre Berto. Ortiz was a legit WW when Floyd knocked him out.

So you saying it's ok for fighter to move up? what if Danny gets the Floyd fight in may 2015? i mean Danny is the king at 140 so by your logic he should fight the 147 king right?

I'm fine with garcia tbh, post matthysse of course. but there are better opponents available at the moment, with Pacquiao, at the time, there wasn't.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

He may not be fighting a lot of "ranked" welters but his level of competition is superb..

When guys like rios and algieri are your soft touch tune ups, you know your a damn good fighter

I will take wins over Bradley, jmm, clottey, over ranked welters like Berto, Ortiz, Alexander, ghost and the rest of the ranked welters since 09...