Since 2009, how many fights will Pac have fought with a ranked opp at the weight

[MrWestGrand]

Pac fighting at welterweight where his body and frame not even belongs there were just icing on the cake. Pac overall wins at welterweight alone sh it on the coward overalll resume. Floyd best wins (not including the weight cheating -Marquez, weight draining - Canelo, sucker punching - Ortiz and glove b!tching - Maidana) were against Oscar, Haton, Cotto and Mosley. We already know how a former flyweight champ Pac easily disposed them while the coward went life and death against them.

If Pac is not that great, your boy is totally a garbage coward.

We keep hearing Paquiao is fighting at a weight he doesn't belong going on 5 years! Well, at the very least he could move down and fight Algeri at his weight, instead of making Algeri and most of his opponents move up to fight him at a weight you claim he doesn't belong. You sound like a straight Stan.

[jose.sooto]

Pac fan boys don't like facts, they much rather rely on opinions.

[soul_survivor]

Leonard's biggest fight at WW was against Duran, unranked in the division. This is boxing, the best from various divisions normally move up to fight the champs in another division. JMM is a legitimate Pacquiao threat, his bogeyman, think of Ali/Norton, Charles/Moore and countless others. What was wrong with either fight?

Bradley was the leading fighter at LWW and moved up to welter in hopes of securing a fight with the best, it so happened Manny was the best. Again, anything wrong with that?

And if we're talking about facts, the point is, how accurate are the ranking systems when fighters like Ortiz and Maidana can be ranked P4P just as soon as they sign on to fight Floyd lol

So yeah, hope this has been an education for you. Thanks.

[straightleft]

BLAH, BLAH. BLAH if thats the case he shouldve moved back down to 140....i guess you wasnt watching boxing when Manny weighed in over 140 the day of fights billed at 126-130....he aint that small

Mayweather beat 3/4 of them first.

Mayweather ko'ed Hatton first when he was undefeated and broke him down. Never the same.

Oscar was at his best weight and younger

Cotto was coming off a winning streak against Mayweather, whereas againt Pac-Man he beat coming off a beat down against Margarito and a tough fight with Clottey

Mosley was younger and coming off a career win, whereas when Manny fought him he hadnt won a fight in years.

You are looking a names but you also have to consider when and what condition they fought their competition. Mayweather fights guys after huge wins, whereas Manny does that every now and then and fights guys after career ass whoopings


You cant even argue Manny beating better competition at 147 with out sounding foolish

Floyd dragged Hatton to his comfortable weight category.
A lot of people thought shot Oscar won against Floyd.
Floyd faked his retirement to duck younger prime Cotto.
Mosley was 38 year old coming from a long lay off and he almost koed Floyd.

[jose.sooto]

Leonard's biggest fight at WW was against Duran, unranked in the division. This is boxing, the best from various divisions normally move up to fight the champs in another division. JMM is a legitimate Pacquiao threat, his bogeyman, think of Ali/Norton, Charles/Moore and countless others. What was wrong with either fight?

Bradley was the leading fighter at LWW and moved up to welter in hopes of securing a fight with the best, it so happened Manny was the best. Again, anything wrong with that?

And if we're talking about facts, the point is, how accurate are the ranking systems when fighters like Ortiz and Maidana can be ranked P4P just as soon as they sign on to fight Floyd lol

So yeah, hope this has been an education for you. Thanks.

Victor Ortiz has never been a P4P guy, i don't know where you got that from. Ortiz was rightfully ranked as a top 5 welterweight in the world after beating undefeated WBC 147 champion Andre Berto. Ortiz was a legit WW when Floyd knocked him out.

So you saying it's ok for fighter to move up? what if Danny gets the Floyd fight in may 2015? i mean Danny is the king at 140 so by your logic he should fight the 147 king right?

[jose.sooto]

Floyd dragged Hatton to his comfortable weight category.
A lot of people thought shot Oscar won against Floyd.
Floyd faked his retirement to duck younger prime Cotto.
Mosley was 38 year old coming from a long lay off and he almost koed Floyd.

Here we go again, pac fan boys trying to win arguments with OPINIONS. lol

[jose.sooto]

Floyd dragged Hatton to his comfortable weight category.
A lot of people thought shot Oscar won against Floyd.
Floyd faked his retirement to duck younger prime Cotto.
Mosley was 38 year old coming from a long lay off and he almost koed Floyd.

Here, imma give you some cold hard FACTS.

Ricky Hatton cleary showed in the first rounds that the added weight wasn't an issue. Floyd was just too good.

Floyd Mayweather Jr WON against Oscar De La Hoya. Floyd Mayweather Jr let Oscar pick the weight, gloves and just about everything.

Floyd Mayweather Jr had long announced that he was going to retire at 30 years of age. It's not like he decided to retire all of a sudden. Bob Arum didn't want to match Miguel Cotto with Floyd, he claimed Miguel wasn't ready. As soon as Miguel left TR he got the Mayweather fight.

Shane Mosley was considered the best welterweight in the world not named Pacquiao or Floyd. Everyone was calling for that fight tio happen. Shane had a little moment but Floyd adjusted and dominated the whole fight to clear UD.

these are all just lies right ? haha

[therealpugilist]

BEFORE this even starts



this is not a manny versus floyd thread


out of his last 9 opponents only 3 were ranked in the top ten when he fought them


that has nothing to do with mayweather

[jose.sooto]

BEFORE this even starts



this is not a manny versus floyd thread


out of his last 9 opponents only 3 were ranked in the top ten when he fought them


that has nothing to do with mayweather

Sorry, i got out of topic but can you please remind me who is the fighter that has fought the most world champions?... i think its Floyd but im not sure

[therealpugilist]

Sorry, i got out of topic but can you please remind me who is the fighter that has fought the most world champions?... i think its Floyd but im not sure

Floyd has defeated more lineal and former titlists than anyone fighting today

I think roy jones may.have beat the same amount of titlists though