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great to hear that cnelo and his team are already overlooking potential opponent Mandingo...Not very intelligent but not too surprised since neither cnelo or his team have high boxing IQ'S in and out of the squared circle...Comment
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First of all, the "black hip-hop community" makes up almost an insignificant percentage of the population in this country. And make up an even bigger insignificant percentage of Floyd's buying public. White folks that wanna see him get his ass kicked spend a helluva lot more watching Floyd than the black folks that adore him.
Secondly, I don't know how long you've been a hardcore fight fan. Judging from your posts, not very long. The way you speak on a million PPV buys leads me to believe that you started following the sport closely during the Floyd/Manny era when a million buys became par for the course. Its not, especially for non-heavyweights. There are a lotta great fighters that never do half a mil on their best night as the A-side of a PPV. Canelo and Cotto are clearly the biggest stars in boxing not named Floyd or Manny, and look what their most recent events did. And those were with opponents the hardcore fight community was almost 100% behind. There is a better chance we don't see a non-heavyweight fight do a million buys for a decade than it is that Ward-GGG does a million buys at any point in their careers.
Lastly, I don't know how you got the impression that I don't respect those guys' talent. Its the total opposite. Without giving it much thought. If I sat down and compiled a P4P list of who I think TODAY are the best fighters in the world completely disregarding past accomplishments. Ward would be my #2 behind Rigondeaux. And GGG would easily crack my top 10, probably my top 5. Ward is the best super middleweight in boxing. And GGG is the best middleweight in boxing. And both are in very similar situations where financially, they are not very attractive opponents for the bigger draws at or around their divisions. That's why I say match em up. Its a fight fan's fight. And only those "fight fans" that wanna ride the current GGG wave are against it. And that's because they're afraid their boy will be exposed as less than they want to believe he is. I'm the resident "GGG hater" around here and that's cool. I actually don't hate GGG. I just hate the mutant fux that are currently on his bandwagon. I don't really have a dawg in the fight. I would root for Ward. But if GGG beat him. I would gladly join the argument on his behalf that he will have supplanted Floyd as boxing's P4P King. If he got his ass kicked. Yes, I would have a lil fun at the expense of his traumatized d1ckriders. But truthfully, I'd applaud him for the ole college try and daring to be great. And fully expect him to resume his reign as king of the middleweights.Comment
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30 years I've been a hardcore fight fan. Hip Hop and Black communities are solid followers of Mayweather. Not insignificant.
White people buy fights to see fights and buy Mayweather fights hoping to see him lose. And are more significant. I give you that.
White folks will buy Golovkin fights and Ward fights because there is an appreciation for that level of a fight. I'm not saying 1 mil buys is par for the course. I'm saying it's ridiculous to consider that a failure.
I'm also saying that Golovkin alone will attract 350K buys in a PPV (like Bradley v Marquez) after a few more appearances with the top WW. When he fights Ward on PPV, that number will at least double. With careful matching and buildup, it will be able to break the 1 mil buys barrier when the Mayweather/Pac/Cotto era closes out. Particularly if Golovkin takes out guys like Canelo, Jacobs, etc. and Ward takes out Chavez Jr.........good or not his name and his fights sell.
WW-MW is the 'new HW' for interest in US boxing until we get a real HW champion.
By the end of 2015 when Floyd and Manny are wrapping up, those two guys will be top 5 P4P if they continue to perform at current levels. And I would NOT be surprised to see them 1-2 if a couple people lose or remain inactive.
I don't see any reason why that fight can't do 1 mil buys. It should. Golovkin will probably have the bigger drawing power by then because of the KO's....it won't mean he's better. But unlike the egos fighting over the biggest fight in history now, GGG will gladly take 50% to try and prove himself and Ward will do the same..........
With no Top Rank garbage undercard, that fight could do serious $$. There are a lot of ifs there, but it can happen. I believe it will.........Comment
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In fact if they can't do 1 mil buys on that after another year of build up, I'd consider it a major failure by the promoters and networks..........Golovkin sold more tickets in is first appearance at the garden than Cotto did........that says a lot. If he cleans out MW like Ward did SMW.........1 mil should be the target..........Comment
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Canelo Nailed It! Cotto Isn't Going To Unify Middleweight With GGG, So Let Canelo!
Cotto versus Canelo will be an epic fight, a war. Cotto can't beat Canelo, but he'll try like hell. That being said, put the Middleweight title up against Canelo. Cotto will never fight Gennady. They are already whining Gennady is too big at 160, but they didn't complain about Sergio being too big at 40 years old and 160! Oh the other hand, when Canelo beats Cotto, Canelo would fight GGG, as he's made it very clear he wants only major fights. Canelo versus GGG, could look like Hagler-Hearns with that kind of intensity. Gennady wins that fight. Cotto wins the 160 belt but won't defend it there, and says GGG would have to drain weight and come down to fight. No he doesn't need to do that, Cotto. He won his titles at 160, weighing 160, and he should be able to unify at 160 with Cotto. If Cotto has a problem with that, then maybe he should have stayed at 154 if he's not prepared to defend or unify it at 160!!!!
Canelo-Cotto would be an epic war with Canelo winning. Canelo-Gennady would be that same fight on steroids; an over the top war. Gennady wins that for just being too strong and heavy handed with each hand. Cott-Gennady on the other hand. Cotto would be counter punching and trying to move from the onslaught, but GGG eventually stops Cotto only half way thru the fight.Comment
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I don't think either would hold up vs GGG. I don't think Canelo has been in a real war that would prepare him for the punishment he'd have to take.....and Golovkin would nullify any advantage Canelo had.
I agree to some extent on Cotto. He did just win the title and to be fair, MW champions typically take one or two soft touches after winning the belt.
But by looking at Cotto and what he can do vs Canelo and his gifts, I think experience wins over youth. I think their power is similar. I think speed might be in Canelo's favor but would be nullified by Cotto's better timing and defense. I think Cotto would win that fight......
Cotto has done enough in his career. He has no need to take the risk of a massacre by GGG. His face doesn't hold up well and he didn't do so well vs Margarito with all the pressure. This would be a guy that applies more pressure, takes an even better shot, cuts the ring better and hits much harder without loaded gloves. And he's a better body puncher at the weight.
Too many wars for Cotto. He should fight Canelo and if he gets by him, lure Floyd up to 155 and walk away with a healthy retirement package, let Floyd leave the vacant title for GGG to take vs whoever is left.......Cotto doesn't owe us a fight with GGG simply because he beat Sergio. And I hope he doesn't do it for his own sake.......Comment
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What's the situation with Marco Antonio Rubio? The WBC had to give Martinez special permission to side-step Rubio in order to fight Cotto, now Cotto's talking about fighting Andy Lee then Alvarez for the MW title?
The WBC nearly got shut down once before due to RJJ-Rocky situation.Comment
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