Comments Thread For: Andre Ward sues Goossen, alleging Ali Act violations

[Hougigo]

Gay Guy Groupies breathing a sigh of relief reading this. The hype lives on.

Yea.... doing it now... not the other three times

[-PBP-]

Isn't this like the 3rd time now?

No. They attempted to mediate before filing the lawsuit. This is the first time an actual lawsuit has been filed.

[The Big Dunn]

You gotta remember, Floyd wasn't always "Money Mayweather". Once upon a time he was shy and humble and just Pretty Boy Floyd. The Money Mayweather persona, flashyness, and trash talking Floyd came about when he knew he had to bait other fighters in the ring and sell tickets outside the ring because his performances inside the ring weren't gonna put people in seats. I remember when Floyd was a low reward high risk and no one wanted to fight him.

Point being, Floyd turned on this whole "bad guy" image. No one knew he had it in him 'til he started. He sure wasnt acting like that with Arum.

Not saying Ward has to go that route, but you never know what someone has in their bag of tricks.

Agreed. Ward has marketed himself as SOG, which doesn't really allow one to do the things Floyd did to market himself without risking turning off your fans.

Ward is destined to be like Hagler-a guy people will respect but not necessarily a guy that will have the cross over popularity/appeal like Floyd, odh, srl.

[M Bison]

The question is who would really care If we never seen Ward fight again?...
Not me.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Dude really does not like Goosen

[sicko]

What ever it takes to get him back into the ring but damn he is going to go broke trying to get out of this damn deal with Goossen/Tutor

[daggum]

Agreed. Ward has marketed himself as SOG, which doesn't really allow one to do the things Floyd did to market himself without risking turning off your fans.

Ward is destined to be like Hagler-a guy people will respect but not necessarily a guy that will have the cross over popularity/appeal like Floyd, odh, srl.

but oscar and leonard made boxing exciting. even floyd fights aren't terrible. there's actual boxing happening where ward fights are just a blob of octopus arms, frog jumps and its just awful.

[sicko]

I remember when Floyd was with Top Rank and Arum "tried" to tell floyd his monetary worth based on his lack of "excitement" in the ring. Had Floyd listened to Arum he would never be the highest $$ boxer in history.

Just because some people don't think Ward isn't worth much because his lack of excitement doesn't mean he's not a diamond in the ruff with the right marketing.

But if Goosen was wrong in not disclosing to Ward the correct amounts that he should've gotten paid, Ward has every right to file a lawsuit.

But his inactivity is definitely damaging his career.

Very True! Ward is really all Goossen/Tutor has so they lose him they are basically out of Business so of course they are not going to lose him without a fight. But yeah Ward desperately need better promotion especially for a fighter at HIS LEVEL.

[New England]

How is this Ward's fault for taking financial control over "HIS" career?

Most fighters don't take financial control over their careers until it's too late (i.e. Tyson, Jones, Holmes, etc.)

he signed a contract...


i'm not speculating on the allegations that goossen is violating the ali act, only chastising ward for signing such a lengthy contract.


it's obvious what's going on here. 2 million is about as much money as ward is going to make on a single fight without ppv. he wants ppv. he wants a fight with a champion at 175, either hopkins, kovalev, or stevenson, to be on ppv. he wants a golovkin fight to be on ppv.

goossen can't promote a big ppv fight, at least i don't think he can. he doesn't have htat kind of muscle. goossen has done a pretty decent job with ward so far. he's gotten him on network TV, and turned him into one of their most popular and well paid fighters. he just hasn't gotten ward, and likely doesn't have the potential, to PPV.

[R_Walken]

Goosen should just let Ward buy out the contract. I don't know what the big deal is, It appears Ward doesn't want to work with him anymore, Goosen doesnt seem to be in a rush to get him fights. The whole situation is ret@rded.

the way this is playing out nobody wins. Ward wasting time in his prime and Goosen not making any $ off Ward.