Julio Cesar Chavez on GGG's power and evident flaw

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  • Simurgh
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    #11
    They need to match GGG with someone dangerous (someone with power) soon. He is getting used to fight these guys without the power to trouble him. That way he just drops his defence and go for a KO.

    Stevens was a good fight, because Stevens has a power.

    Quillin would be an ideal candidate.

    Rosado actually said Peter hits harder than GGG, but I take this with some doubt.

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    • Aztekkas
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      #12
      Originally posted by ggg_kz
      More evidence to dismiss statement of Chavez Sr.:



      Hmmm, I never paid attention to it really. If anything Gif's and snippets of GGG throwing proper combinations won't be as effective as studying entire fights. Personally, I'm not desperate enough to find a flaw and go back fight by fight to study his fights but that's partly because i'm a GGG fan However, those statements where made by JCC Sr.. same guy who said Cotto would give GGG trouble yet said GGG was too much 15 minutes later.

      The same guy who was arguing with his colleagues on JCC Jr making 160 for Cotto last week just to accept Cotto is too small for 160 this week and agree on JCC Jr being at a comfortable weight now(168). I don't put much weight on it but still, interesting to see what JJC Sr thinks on a guy many are comparing to him.

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      • Aztekkas
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        #13
        Originally posted by Simurgh
        They need to match GGG with someone dangerous (someone with power) soon. He is getting used to fight these guys without the power to trouble him. That way he just drops his defence and go for a KO.

        Stevens was a good fight, because Stevens has a power.

        Quillin would be an ideal candidate.

        Rosado actually said Peter hits harder than GGG, but I take this with some doubt.
        Stevens was a great fight IMO, in terms of testing GGG's chin. Thing is with all the politics of boxing, lack of any real competition at 160 and GGG being in his 30's… GGG is in a tough position. No one seems to want to fight him aside from Ward, and even then he will be going up in weight and facing a PFP Elite fighter if he goes down that path. I'm sure Canelo won't fight him seeing as how he has yet to acknowledge his existence and has plans on going after Cotto. I highly doubt Cotto vs Alvarez will be for the 160 straps since Canelo has stated his disregard for moving up in weight. In fact he wants to stay at 154 for good, thus GGG would have to go down but even then I just don't see it going down.

        Cotto is leaning towards Canelo now more so with the ratings reflecting a drop in GGG's pulling power and Chavez Jr is readying to clash with Froch in January. Quillin is out on vacation with his phone on silent and 160 isn't deeper than a blow up pool from K Mart. Time is slipping by fast and GGG needs to figure things out, personally moving up to 168 is the way to go. Not only for money fights but a good legacy can be made their before it's too late. Seeing as his style won't lend him longevity and his age beginning to bite at his heels.

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        • dan_cov
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          #14
          Can't say I've noticed that myself, I think he does a good job personally of gluing his right glove to the side of his face defending against left hooks.

          Its his lead I see the vulnerabilities with.

          Probes, jabs, left hooks.
          If he don't leave his hand out there he brings it back very, very low, everytime.

          I see a lot of defensive flaws and vulnerabilities myself but his offense is very good. Its the main reason why I am not sold on him I think he needs too tighten things up because he won't get away with it when he does step up.

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          • ggg_kz
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            #15
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            Can't say I've noticed that myself, I think he does a good job personally of gluing his right glove to the side of his face defending against left hooks.

            Its his lead I see the vulnerabilities with.

            Probes, jabs, left hooks.
            If he don't leave his hand out there he brings it back very, very low, everytime.

            I see a lot of defensive flaws and vulnerabilities myself but his offense is very good. Its the main reason why I am not sold on him I think he needs too tighten things up because he won't get away with it when he does step up.
            Yeah, Chavez must have talked about Chakhiyev, who drops his right hand while throwing the left hook as evindenced by the gif in you signature lol.

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              #16
              Originally posted by ggg_kz
              Yeah, Chavez must have talked about Chakhiyev, who drops his right hand while throwing the left hook as evindenced by the gif in you signature lol.

              kudos

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              • Sancho Puncho
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                #17
                Originally posted by Aztekkas
                Time is slipping by fast and GGG needs to figure things out, personally moving up to 168 is the way to go. Not only for money fights but a good legacy can be made their before it's too late. Seeing as his style won't lend him longevity and his age beginning to bite at his heels.
                I actually think that GGG is very fresh fighter. His fights end very quickly and he doesn't take punishment in the ring. His style is power-based, as opposed to speed-based, and power remains as a fighter grow older. So he can be in his prime easily up to 40.
                Though I agree that moving to 168 would be right choice for his legacy. At 160 all his fights are mismatches.

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                • Bushbaby
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                  #18
                  Excellent interview.

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                  • Foreign Soil
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Light_Speed
                    GGG doesn't drop his right hand when he throws his left hook to the liver :




                    Don't know what GGG fights JCC been watching.
                    Yeah... GGG's defense is underrated. Most of those Stevens shots that people love to say hit flush, GGG rolled most of them off. If you don't see it then you simply aren't paying attention closely enough.

                    Ward makes more defensive mistakes but his speed allows him to get away with it a lot, but you still see him pulling back with his chin in the air or leaving his head up when he throws... Froch caught him like that a few times.

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                    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                      #20
                      GGG is a top fighter but the comparisons to Chavez Sr are not there yet. Chavez was a great defensive fighter, one of the aspects of his game people severely underrate.

                      GGG needs to move his head more, and there are times when he does keep his hands low but I think it's also because he is punching so hard and is so eager to knock your head off.

                      Chavez Sr was a once in a lifetime fighter, I don't know if GGG is that just yet but he definitely has the talent.

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