Comments Thread For: Team Cotto: Golovkin Not Yet in Majors, Fight Premature

[hitking]

Alright you're taking it too far. No need to talk about death. Not cool at all. Peace


Shoulda negged your ass

Start living right. Death wouldn't be so scary.

[King_]

Start living right. Death wouldn't be so scary.

[hitking]

The point of this entire pointless conversation is that a guy can't "hold the lineal title hostage." Because every recognized lineal title was established subjectively. So if you sit on/don't defend a lineal title long enough, it becomes less and less relevant, to the point of irrelevance. I don't think anyone with a functional pair of eyes consider Cotto the world's best middleweight. And I think GGG is about as close to a consensus #1 in a division we have in the sport outside of Wladimir. A very solid argument can be made that he beat the next best guy Saturday. So with or without Cotto and/or his lineal title. The road to middleweight supremacy currently goes through GGG. And if he keeps going like he's going, won't be too long before he's recognizing as the universally recognized champion and establish a title lineage of his own. Don't see what's complicated about that.

[RAV3N]

You so f.uckin ****** it ain't even funny no more. George Foreman technically retired with a lineal title. The **** meant nothing cause he wasn't fighting nobody anyway. I aint caught in ****. I just think youre a f.uckin' dumbass that brings a lotta boxrec arguments and think you're spittin' knowledge. But we can play your game. You didn't answer my question. What's the concrete rules for establishing a lineal champion when the last recognized champ doesnt lose the title in the ring?

Its actually your game not answer questions ****tard, you cant even come up with your own argument.

Now I will play your game and not even acknowledge your post and call names.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Reality is Cotto does not have to fight GGG (although i would like to see it), GGG is not even ranked currently by the WBC which is the title that Cotto holds. So regardless of where GGG is ranked as a middleweight he is not ranked as a WBC contender. So to put it simply there is no obligation for Cotto to fight GGG, and could not be misconstrued as the title being held hostage if Cotto did not fight GGG because GGG is not ranked as a WBC challenger. The interim champ which is Rubio is supposed to be the next in line to fight for the WBC title, and after Rubio its Martin Murray. I would like to see Cotto fight Chavez Jr since we know Canelo aint happening till May of next year. I would like to see GGG fight Martin Murray because I dont think GGG can knock Murray out. That fight for GGG would do two things, it would give him a fight that many would consider his first real test and it would put GGG next inline to contend for the WBC title as WBC ranks. If canelo wins his bout, Cotto wins his bout, GGG wins his bout, GGG can go on to fight soliman or destroy Rubio while the winner of Cotto-Canelo faces GGG next

WBC rankings

1 .- Martin Murray (GB) SILVER
2 .- David Lemieux (Canada) NABF
3 .- Curtis Stevens (US)
4 .- Jorge Sebastian Heiland (Argentina) INTL
5 .- Billy Joe Saunders (GB) COMM/BBB C
6 .- Andrey Meryasev (Russia) BALTIC
7 .- Jermain Taylor (US)
8 .- Domenico Spada (Italy)
9 .- Matthew Macklin (GB)
10 .- Marcos Reyes (Mexico) FECOMBOX
11 .- Ryota Murata (Japan)
12 .- Tureano Johnson (US) AMERICA
13 .- Sergio Mora (US)
14 .- Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam (Cameroon)
15 .- Emanuele Blandamura (Italy)

[gyllespie]

Canelo is the only excuse they have to NOT fight Golovkin. I don't care what the rankings are. Everyone knows GG is the hottest fighter at 160, many even consider him the best already. If Gennady isn't "major" yet then what was Trout?? I'm a Cotto fan but I wish his team would just stop insulting my intelligence. If they are too afraid to get in the ring with GG they should say something more acceptable like, "Golovkin is on our radar. We can't guarantee he will be Cotto's next opponent but he is an option."

I'm not even mad at the fact that Cotto isn't fighting GGG next. That's not an issue. The fight can wait (although I'm not complaining if it happens soon). It's when promoters/fighters/trainers belittle guys like Golovkin by saying they don't deserve a chance - that's what pisses me off.

[jbpanama]

Should Cotto be foolish enough to engage the G'Man....

Ha ha ha...About Round 2, He'll know who the "B Side" is...

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Canelo is the only excuse they have to NOT fight Golovkin. I don't care what the rankings are. Everyone knows GG is the hottest fighter at 160, many even consider him the best already. If Gennady isn't "major" yet then what was Trout?? I'm a Cotto fan but I wish his team would just stop insulting my intelligence. If they are too afraid to get in the ring with GG they should say something more acceptable like, "Golovkin is on our radar. We can't guarantee he will be Cotto's next opponent but he is an option."

I'm not even mad at the fact that Cotto isn't fighting GGG next. That's not an issue. The fight can wait (although I'm not complaining if it happens soon). It's when promoters/fighters/trainers belittle guys like Golovkin by saying they don't deserve a chance - that's what pisses me off.

Well they're telling the truth. They have made it clear especially Roach that Cotto is only looking for major fights with major pay days and GGG does not fit the criteria. Why don't we wait to see who's the next opponent, because Trout was before Roach and Rodriguez was a tune up to get Cotto busy after a year lay off so the situation is not comparable. That's why I think if they can't get Canelo to sign for December then it's going to be Chavez Jr at 160 or Bradley at 154. These are the only fighters other then May and Pac that fit the bill. And I don't understand why people keep saying defend or vacate, Cotto can drop to 154 for a big pay day against Bradley then go back up to defend in his next fight, he doesn't have to defend right away.

[The Big Dunn]

Team cotto taking same stance team GGG did regarding "financial sense". How can anyone really be mad at that?

[Dealer]

Team cotto taking same stance team GGG did regarding "financial sense". How can anyone really be mad at that?

Cotto would be an idiot to run his rejuvenated career through the buzz saw that is GGG. I just hope his fight versus Canelo is not for his middleweight title. I'm sick of fighters debuting in a division with the lineal title on the line. Canelo is simply not deserving of the shot. Fortunately, Cotto's big payday is also a good fight. If you're going to take a beating and a loss it might as well be from real money superstar like Canelo instead of marginal superstar like GGG.