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  • hitking
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    #331
    Originally posted by RAV3N
    Then Cotto needs to relinquish the mw lineal title if he isnt willing to defend it against real 160 fighters.

    So in your opinion Cotto should be allowed to hold the belt hostage without people complaining.

    As you can see you still avoid answering the question when you have been called out in your contradictions, so I have to say the exact same stuff to you.

    Your comparisons got used against you and you had no answer which means you failed in your argument.

    I actually knew more about the facts with your comparisons then you did and you say that I wasnt following boxing then lolz.

    Good luck Troll.
    Dude you're a f.uckin' dumbass. Do you even know WTF a lineal title is? The lineal title isn't something you "relinquish." When did Zsolt Eredi relinquish the lineal light heavyweight title? When did Manny relinquish the lineal jr welterweight title? When did Winky Wright relinquish the lineal jr middleweight title? Matter of fact, what's the lineage of the title you're on here b1tchin' about. You don't even know WTF you're talking about. Since you know so much about my argument. Explain this one to me. If Cotto relinquishes the lineal middleweight title and doesn't lose it in the ring? Exactly how to you suppose GGG is gonna fight for it? The lineal title is the man who beat the man who beat the man. Therefore when the champion "relinquishes" it, the title is done. How do we go about crowning another one? That's right, GGG could obliterate the division until there's no question he's THE MAN. Which he can do with or without a Cotto fight. Damn I'm tired of these f.uckin' morons deciding their gonna follow boxing closely, subscribe to Ring magazine, and act like The Ring belt is the lineal title. Which is exactly what yo dumbass did.

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    • HeroBando
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      #332
      Originally posted by hitking
      Dude you're a f.uckin' dumbass. Do you even know WTF a lineal title is? The lineal title isn't something you "relinquish." When did Zsolt Eredi relinquish the lineal light heavyweight title? When did Manny relinquish the lineal jr welterweight title? When did Winky Wright relinquish the lineal jr middleweight title? Matter of fact, what's the lineage of the title you're on here b1tchin' about. You don't even know WTF you're talking about. Since you know so much about my argument. Explain this one to me. If Cotto relinquishes the lineal middleweight title and doesn't lose it in the ring? Exactly how to you suppose GGG is gonna fight for it? The lineal title is the man who beat the man who beat the man. Therefore when the champion "relinquishes" it, the title is done. How do we go about crowning another one? That's right, GGG could obliterate the division until there's no question he's THE MAN. Which he can do with or without a Cotto fight. Damn I'm tired of these f.uckin' morons deciding their gonna follow boxing closely, subscribe to Ring magazine, and act like The Ring belt is the lineal title. Which is exactly what yo dumbass did.
      So if the lineage at 140 stopped with Pac, how is Garcia the Champ now? Bull**** from you, as usual. If Cotto vacates, GGG can unify to reestablish the lineage.

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      • Mr.Fantastic
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        #333
        In Cotto's last 10 fights.....he's only fought two that were truly in the big leagues. That's 20%!! Now let's talk guys that we know that weren't....Jennings, Clottey(so so), Foreman, Mayorga, Margarito(not anymore), Trout, and Rodriguez. That's 70%!!! You can even make a case to add Martinez who was coming off a long lay off and injury.

        I see through the bullshit that is Miguel Cotto.

        Now I'm not here wanting him to fight Golovkin because he just got to the division and he has the right to build his body into 160. My thing is that he talks like he's the grand shit, which he isn't.

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        • RAV3N
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          #334
          Originally posted by hitking
          Dude you're a f.uckin' dumbass. Do you even know WTF a lineal title is? The lineal title isn't something you "relinquish." When did Zsolt Eredi relinquish the lineal light heavyweight title? When did Manny relinquish the lineal jr welterweight title? When did Winky Wright relinquish the lineal jr middleweight title? Matter of fact, what's the lineage of the title you're on here b1tchin' about. You don't even know WTF you're talking about. Since you know so much about my argument. Explain this one to me. If Cotto relinquishes the lineal middleweight title and doesn't lose it in the ring? Exactly how to you suppose GGG is gonna fight for it? The lineal title is the man who beat the man who beat the man. Therefore when the champion "relinquishes" it, the title is done. How do we go about crowning another one? That's right, GGG could obliterate the division until there's no question he's THE MAN. Which he can do with or without a Cotto fight. Damn I'm tired of these f.uckin' morons deciding their gonna follow boxing closely, subscribe to Ring magazine, and act like The Ring belt is the lineal title. Which is exactly what yo dumbass did.
          Now your argument has gotten so soft you are picking on words, relinquish or vacate, whatever makes you happy.

          You do know that people have vacated or retired while holding the lineal title in the past dont you?

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          • hitking
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            #335
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            So if the lineage at 140 stopped with Pac,w is Garcia the Champ now? Bull**** from you, as usual. If Cotto vacates, GGG can unify to reestablish the lineage.
            Ah yeah, like I said, kick the **** outta the rest of the division. Exactly WTF did Danny unify? That bull**** Khan? Maybe that's when established himself in your mind. In mine, it was when he beat Matthysse, who had no belt. In somebody else's, he may need to win all the bests. Its all subjective. There's no established criteria for establishing a lineal champion. You kinda know when you. So shut yo b1tch ass up and quit cheerleading that bull****.

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            • hitking
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              #336
              Originally posted by RAV3N
              Now your argument has gotten so soft you are picking on words, relinquish or vacate, whatever makes you happy.

              You do know that people have vacated or retired while holding the lineal title in the past dont you?
              Help me understand the rules for establishing a new "lineal champion" then sir.

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              • RAV3N
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                #337
                Originally posted by hitking
                Help me understand the rules for establishing a new "lineal champion" then sir.
                You just got caught out on your bs again and couldnt answer the question.

                It sounds like you have a fair idea already but cotto is able to vacate the title and you acted like no one in the history of the lineal title has ever done this when they have.

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                • carloscruz10009
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                  #338
                  Not sure if this makes sense.....

                  Lineal championship
                  In professional boxing, the lineal championship of a weight class is a notional world championship title. It is initially held at some moment in time by a boxer universally acclaimed as the best in the class. Another boxer can win the lineal championship only by defeating the reigning lineal champion in the ring. The lineal champion is described as "the man who beat the man".[1][2] There is no single canonical list of lineal champions at any weight class, because there is no agreed method of what to do when the current champion retires or moves to a different weight class.

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                  • King_
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                    #339
                    Cottos ducking GGG. Holding the lineal title hostage SMH

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                    • mathed
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                      #340
                      Originally posted by RAV3N
                      You just got caught out on your bs again and couldnt answer the question.

                      It sounds like you have a fair idea already but cotto is able to vacate the title and you acted like no one in the history of the lineal title has ever done this when they have.
                      Cotto isn't fighting GGG.....that just won't happen. Kirkland is coming up...

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