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  • Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
    What part of "rankings"did you not understand?
    I quoted your ****** ass - You said Trout fought almost all the 154 pounders that mattered at the time WHICH IS BULLSHT because Trout fought LoPorto and Rodriguez!!!!!!! You act like he cleaned out the division!! So where is this list of all these 154 pound fighters that mattered at the time that Trout fought????? You cant dig yourself out of that hole!!!!! Act like a man and admit you were wrong!
    Last edited by richardt; 07-28-2014, 10:06 PM.

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    • Originally posted by hitking View Post
      These dip****s know that. Its all about getting GGG in with guys they know he'll beat. They're new fans. They're scared to see their favorite fighters lose. That's why they're scared of the Ward fight. I imagine you got over that type **** somewhere between the ass pasting Tito took from B-Hop and Cotto took from Plasterman.
      Bhop beat a smaller guy... Wink wink & Margarito had bricks...... Both were good and probably not all time greats.... All good... And so what if Calderon beat cotto 20 years ago

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      • Cotto Fan here. This is the DEAL like Mr. Obvious

        Cotto - Canelo >>>>> Cotto - GGG money wise

        If Cotto - GGG happens he will loose and NO Cotto - Canelo

        Basic Stuff.

        IF you were Cotto what will you do?

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        • Originally posted by RAV3N View Post
          You contradict yourself and can only call people names.

          You brought up Pac winning the lmw title and said why didnt I hold him to the same standard as I hold Cotto to.

          The fact is Pac relinquished pretty much straight after the fight while Cotto hasnt.

          And I asked why dont you hold Cotto to that same standard and you have no answer because you were caught out on your own contradictions.

          Go through my posts, I havnt contradicted myself like you have or just call me more names because that is all you can do.
          Dude, you're talking bull****. You wanna see GGG in with a guy you're pretty sure he'll beat under the cover of "Cotto's the lineal champion." I don't need to see the fight or even think its relevant because in my mind Cotto's not a middleweight and it can be argued that GGG blew out the next best MIDDLEWEIGHT this past weekend. You're arguing about nothing. But from now on, I will tt y not and used parallels and comparisons when dealing with you. I apologize. Its not fair. You probably weren't even following boxing when most of the stuff I referenced happen.

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          • Originally posted by carloscruz10009 View Post
            Oh so u don't hate GGG... Ur personal feelings don't affect ur judgement... Nice
            Dude I think Floyd is a dumbass. I just think his haters are bigger dumbasses. And I have no beef with GGG. His worshipers are just dumbasses.

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            • Originally posted by Puya View Post
              Cotto Fan here. This is the DEAL like Mr. Obvious

              Cotto - Canelo >>>>> Cotto - GGG money wise

              If Cotto - GGG happens he will loose and NO Cotto - Canelo

              Basic Stuff.

              IF you were Cotto what will you do?
              Fight the Irishman... Canelo.

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              • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                Dude I think Floyd is a dumbass. I just think his haters are bigger dumbasses. And I have no beef with GGG. His worshipers are just dumbasses.
                I like GGG too... But he needs to step it up..

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                • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                  Dude, you're talking bull****. You wanna see GGG in with a guy you're pretty sure he'll beat under the cover of "Cotto's the lineal champion." I don't need to see the fight or even think its relevant because in my mind Cotto's not a middleweight and it can be argued that GGG blew out the next best MIDDLEWEIGHT this past weekend. You're arguing about nothing. But from now on, I will tt y not and used parallels and comparisons when dealing with you. I apologize. Its not fair. You probably weren't even following boxing when most of the stuff I referenced happen.
                  Then Cotto needs to relinquish the mw lineal title if he isnt willing to defend it against real 160 fighters.

                  So in your opinion Cotto should be allowed to hold the belt hostage without people complaining.

                  As you can see you still avoid answering the question when you have been called out in your contradictions, so I have to say the exact same stuff to you.

                  Your comparisons got used against you and you had no answer which means you failed in your argument.

                  I actually knew more about the facts with your comparisons then you did and you say that I wasnt following boxing then lolz.

                  Good luck Troll.

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                  • To those mentioning Austin Trout.

                    1. Cotto apparently signed a 2 fight deal with Haymon. It was Mayweather and Trout. Haymon put Trout in front of Cotto,and Cotto fought him. The price was right, Cotto got the significant lion's share.

                    2. That was not a big PPV fight and wasn't supposed to be. Many fans, including me, thought that was a ****** move by Cotto. Cotto turned down Pacquiao and Canelo. He turned down Pac because he wanted a CW below 150. He turned down Canelo because he probably wasn't going to get the same as what he did for Trout because he would have had to give up more money in the purse split. Cotto was also coming off a loss and Trout was the champion, Cotto wanted a belt. In this case, Cotto won the belt, and beating GGG won't do anything for his legacy because GGG himself hasn't done anything even for his own legacy. He's no ATG, let alone HOF'er.

                    3. The next logical move for Cotto is Canelo Alvarez or Timothy Bradley. Both have been on PPV, Canelo has shown that by himself he is a 300-350k type of PPV seller, which is great. Bradley has shown with Pac and Marquez that he is a good enough dance partner to draw in 400-700k PPV's. Golovkin has yet to be on PPV and Cotto is not in the level of Mayweather or Pacquiao in selling PPV's that he can just fight anyone with no prior PPV headlining and still do well.

                    Golovkin is not a logical move. It is a ****** move that no fan would take if they were in Cotto's shoes.

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                    • Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                      To those mentioning Austin Trout.

                      1. Cotto apparently signed a 2 fight deal with Haymon. It was Mayweather and Trout. Haymon put Trout in front of Cotto,and Cotto fought him. The price was right, Cotto got the significant lion's share.

                      2. That was not a big PPV fight and wasn't supposed to be. Many fans, including me, thought that was a ****** move by Cotto. Cotto turned down Pacquiao and Canelo. He turned down Pac because he wanted a CW below 150. He turned down Canelo because he probably wasn't going to get the same as what he did for Trout because he would have had to give up more money in the purse split. Cotto was also coming off a loss and Trout was the champion, Cotto wanted a belt. In this case, Cotto won the belt, and beating GGG won't do anything for his legacy because GGG himself hasn't done anything even for his own legacy. He's no ATG, let alone HOF'er.

                      3. The next logical move for Cotto is Canelo Alvarez or Timothy Bradley. Both have been on PPV, Canelo has shown that by himself he is a 300-350k type of PPV seller, which is great. Bradley has shown with Pac and Marquez that he is a good enough dance partner to draw in 400-700k PPV's. Golovkin has yet to be on PPV and Cotto is not in the level of Mayweather or Pacquiao in selling PPV's that he can just fight anyone with no prior PPV headlining and still do well.

                      Golovkin is not a logical move. It is a ****** move that no fan would take if they were in Cotto's shoes.
                      I doubt Bradley adds any more buys vs GGG, who has tremendous momentum now. But for the most part I agree, just think Cotto should drop the belt if he keeps insisting on CWs, like supposedly vs Chavez. I understand it's his leverage vs Canelo and Floyd, but makes a mockery of the lineal belt.

                      Btw, Cotto's purse for Trout was a pitiful 1m. I have a hard time believing he'd have to sign a 2 fight contract with such a terrible risk/reward followup to get Floyd, who also needs marketable opponents. Cotto is a major star himself.

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