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  • LacedUp
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    #11
    Originally posted by HEND
    C'mon, Cunningham was always a natural cw not a heavyweight at all and Fury is a 206 cm tower. But even with this size he knocked down by Cunningham. Okay after he turned the fight, props for that, but otherwise that wan't a convincing vicory at all. And don't bring up Kevin penguin Johnson, who was/is years out of his prme and every C-B level contender beat him.

    Base on that logic every fighter deserve to be a millionaire who train hard. In parts that's true but in boxing can't everyone be a millionaire so if you wanna be rich it's not bad if you have a good rseume or something. Fury didn't want to fight an eliminator VS Pulev when he had the chance, if he'd fight him and he is the top guy who he claims he is, maybe now in September he'd fight with Wlad for big money. But he didn't live with the chance yet call Wladimir a p#ussy. Fury had the chance to fight with Haye and Chisora because his big mouth and his persona and brits dying for domestic fights, not because he is an extraorinary fighter, serious contender for a world title or something like that. And if he already got fight for millions the minimum is he takes the trainings seriously, this is his job. So he got these fights because he's sellable because his interviews and ****y persona not because he deserved it with his levelof competition. So I still don't understand why is he deserve to be a millionaire. I think other hard working but less rude fighters maybe deserve it too or deserve it more. So I still don't feel sorry for him.
    Yes, and Cunningham was one of the only guys willing to take the fight at the time - and had competed at heavyweight and should have had a decision over Adamek and went on to beat Mansour.

    Yes, he had an opportunity to fight Pulev for 200k - but was offered to fight Haye for £5m. Now, any idiot in the world can see which option was the best option.

    Haye dropped out of that fight, Fury didn't.

    Regardless, I don't want to go into why he deserves to be a millionaire. The point is Haye is pathetic for saying he doesn't deserve it, when it's not his place to determine that at all. It just reflects badly on Haye after he dropped out on Tyson TWICE.

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    • kafkod
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      #12
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Yes, and Cunningham was one of the only guys willing to take the fight at the time - and had competed at heavyweight and should have had a decision over Adamek and went on to beat Mansour.

      Yes, he had an opportunity to fight Pulev for 200k - but was offered to fight Haye for £5m. Now, any idiot in the world can see which option was the best option.

      Haye dropped out of that fight, Fury didn't.

      Regardless, I don't want to go into why he deserves to be a millionaire. The point is Haye is pathetic for saying he doesn't deserve it, when it's not his place to determine that at all. It just reflects badly on Haye after he dropped out on Tyson TWICE.
      It was a ****** thing for Haye to say. If Fury doesn't deserve to be a millionaire, why did Haye think he deserved 5m quid for fighting him?

      Fury should wait till the extent of Chisora's injury is known though, before sounding off like this. If Del Boy's hand is broken, he can't fight this weekend, end of.
      Last edited by kafkod; 07-25-2014, 07:39 AM.

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      • jas
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        #13
        Fury is the best heavyweight in Britain.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya
          I like Fury and I understand his frustration of having fights post ponned and cancelled. I also know Chisora and met him but he's injured. Chisora doesn't duck anyone and he really wants this fight but unlike the previous fight between them he is in no state to fight, he's injured.
          Yeah....Its just an unfortunate turn of events. I can't blame Fury for being Fury-ious haha....But it does not seem in Chisora's nature to duck a fight. besides he already fought Fury once. These things happen, if you are Fury you prolly need some dog to kick, so to speak. Rather than yelling at the family, best to let Chisora have it I guess.

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          • Dirk Diggler UK
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            #15
            People saying Chisora is definitely injured....how do you know this?

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            • jas
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              #16
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              People saying Chisora is definitely injured....how do you know this?
              good question lol

              they are assuming it based on the fact he hasn't ducked anybody in the past?

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              • HEND
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                People saying Chisora is definitely injured....how do you know this?
                Because he hasn't got a reason to duck the fight and doesn't get the big money? Because he faced way more serious contenders than Fury during his carreer? Because he never ducked anyone? Because normalwise when somebody say that he broke his ****ing arm I belive it and don't say that "liar, you didn't break your arm"? Because only Fury and his ****** fans actually think that Chisora ducked the fight?

                Well there are some reason why I belive that he actually broke his arm...
                And Haye had a shoulder surgery because he was so scared of Fury, yeah. But oh wait I wasn't there maybe he wasn't on a surgery with his shoulder maybe he is lying and that's just a new strategy to duck the scary monster Fury.

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                • Dirk Diggler UK
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by HEND
                  Because he hasn't got a reason to duck the fight and doesn't get the big money? Because he faced way more serious contenders than Fury during his carreer? Because he never ducked anyone? Because normalwise when somebody say that he broke his ****ing arm I belive it and don't say that "liar, you didn't break your arm"? Because only Fury and his ****** fans actually think that Chisora ducked the fight?

                  Well there are some reason why I belive that he actually broke his arm...
                  And Haye had a shoulder surgery because he was so scared of Fury, yeah. But oh wait I wasn't there maybe he wasn't on a surgery with his shoulder maybe he is lying and that's just a new strategy to duck the scary monster Fury.
                  I'm a Chisora fan but I'm not naive. There could easily be something else going on here and it doesn't have to necessarily be fear of Fury.

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                  • Dr.Eisenfaust
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                    #19
                    Haye backed out from :

                    - 2 fights with Vitali Klitschko (2009-2012)

                    - 1 fight with Wladimir Klitschko (2009)

                    - 1 fight with Manuel Charr ( 2013)

                    -2 fights with Tyson Fury ( 2013)

                    In a nutshell, he backed out from 6 fights in 4 years. And I believe there is an extremely low possibility that all his "injuries" are genuine.

                    If there is one guy to blame here, it is definitely David Haye.

                    I am also not that sure about Chisora. On one hand it seems very weird that someone withdraws for the third time in 10 months from a fight with Tyson Fury but on the other hand Chisora seems to be a fighting man, but you never know...

                    One thing I am quite sure of, is that Tyson Fury intimidated Chisora on their last press conference.

                    Tyson Fury has now aaaall the rights to duck Haye and Chisora.

                    Haye doesnt deserve even a 500K payday.

                    Haye is the shame of the division of the last decade. (Don't get me wrong, he is indeed an excellent fighter) He came as the unified cruiserweight champion, withdrew from 2 Klitschko fights and beat Valuev, Harrison and Ruiz, got a 50:50 split with Klitschko and made himself ridiculous with his sore toe. David Haye was simply pathetic!

                    I would love to have Haye as a top contender, but his behaviour is simply de****able!
                    Last edited by Dr.Eisenfaust; 07-25-2014, 04:12 PM.

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