Should Wladimir Klitschko fire Emmanual Steward?

[Dr Cynical]

this is what im talking about, you clearly dont know what the hell your talking about. Your even trying to say its somehow Toney's fault he has suffered two injuries.

was Toney out of shape for his fight with Holyfield?..NO

was Toney out of shape for his fight with Booker?...NO

Is Toney even a power puncher who takes guys out?...NO

Toney is a fat clumsy **** up.
He is injury prone, in wrestling when guys have injuries like Toney's and as often as Toney's, they are on steroids or something similar.
Which is pretty bad in Toney's case since even with steroids (if he did take them), he still couldn't KO a bum.
Did you see Toney in the middle of the Booker fight?
He was resting in rounds and didn't want to get off the stool at times.

[oldgringo]

Nope, he didn't have a chin, Toney just doesn't have power.

Toney looked like he didn't want to get off the stool at times.

Who do you think should really retire?
Remember, you can only pick one.
RJJ or Wlad?

He never looked like that...He would KO Wlad in less than 8...and they should both retire.

[ChrististheAnswer]

Toney is a fat clumsy **** up.
He is injury prone, in wrestling when guys have injuries like Toney's and as often as Toney's, they are on steroids or something similar.
Which is pretty bad in Toney's case since even with steroids (if he did take them), he still couldn't KO a bum.
Did you see Toney in the middle of the Booker fight?
He was resting in rounds and didn't want to get off the stool at times.

Toney is an all-time great, all boxing experts agree on that. Yet you seem to not understand that, name some of Toney's fights where he has looked poor. You can't ever seem to give truly great fighters respect, why is this?

[Dr Cynical]

He never looked like that...He would KO Wlad in less than 8...and they should both retire.

Yeah he did.
Even his biggest ass kisser (kellerman) said he looked like he didn't want to get off the stool.
Do you think Wlad has gotten so bad that RJJ could beat him?

[Sir_Jose]

Your title is ruler of the lounge, you make very good posts in there, very good. However the content of your boxing posts are lacking,no offense, but maybe you should stick to the lounge.Maybe once you know more about boxing you should can start posting in the boxing forum. Don't take this as an insult, becasue it is merely a suggestion. I really do like your posts in the lounge.

God bless you Dr. Cynical,

thats pretty much the way I feel. I like him as aposter he's one of my favorites and evenetually his boxing knowledge will grow.

Toney is a fat clumsy **** up.

Im sorry did you just call James Toney "clumsy". Toney is one of the slickest and most skilled boxers who ever lived...I mean my god man.

[oldgringo]

Toney is a fat clumsy **** up.
He is injury prone, in wrestling when guys have injuries like Toney's and as often as Toney's, they are on steroids or something similar.
Which is pretty bad in Toney's case since even with steroids (if he did take them), he still couldn't KO a bum.
Did you see Toney in the middle of the Booker fight?
He was resting in rounds and didn't want to get off the stool at times.

Dr. Cynical...#1 devoted Toney hater extraordinaire. The ONLY reason Toney would not want to get off of his stool is because Booker was such a sad joke of a fighter...kinda like TOS Williamson.

[Dr Cynical]

Toney is an all-time great, all boxing experts agree on that. Yet you seem to not understand that, name some of Toney's fights where he has looked poor. You can't ever seem to give truly great fighters respect, why is this?

Toney is a guy who's tailor-made for the media and most of it's dumbasses.
He is a big, black, bald loud-mouth who does more talking than action in the ring.
His best days are behind him.
Today all he can do is get by old guys and bums and get an injury then talk more **** and not act on it.
I've seen his fights and he looked like **** against RJJ and Booker.
Looking ****** against RJJ at that time was acceptable, but against a ****ing no-name bum?
Please.. If you must latch-on to a loud-mouth black guy, find one in the NFL.
At least they get something done after all their talking.

[ChrististheAnswer]

I saw a full Byrd fight once and decided that was the end for me.
That was against Ike.
I've seen some of his other fights but never the full fight.
He bores and annoys me.

What happened in the Ike fight, be specific? What other fights have you watched of his? So you base judgements on one fight and not full fights. How can you even make comments on someone if you are not trul familiar with them.

[oldgringo]

Yeah he did.
Even his biggest ass kisser (kellerman) said he looked like he didn't want to get off the stool.
Do you think Wlad has gotten so bad that RJJ could beat him?

What does RJJ have to do with this?

[Sir_Jose]

Dr. Cynical...#1 devoted Toney hater extraordinaire. The ONLY reason Toney would not want to get off of his stool is because Booker was such a sad joke of a fighter...kinda like TOS Williamson.

James Toney would never even think of quitting in a fight. Say whatever you want about the guy but no one questions his willingness to fight. The guy had a freaking torn rotator cuff and barley mentioned it