Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[billeau2]

I'd love to see Fury vs Ortiz. No clue who'd win, I can see it going both ways.

Both BIG light footed giants.

I personally think Ortiz is the best in the division, the way he almost took out Jennings the first round was crazy.
Sure, he's on PEDS.. but so are most boxers.

Ortiz does not know how to cut the ring down in my opinion...its funny about the Cubans, they often have a lot of Ammy habits and one of them is moving quickly in and out on a line, chasing the guy down to hit him. This works great for a fights of a few rounds trying to hit with as many punches as one can...It does not work so well chasing guys who can move and punch, over the course of a fight.

Ortiz has a lot of skills but imo unless he learns not to chase after a long reached puncher boxer, he will have serious problems with Fury. heavy handed guys like Foreman were masters of cornering and stalking a guy, then manhandling them into their punches. Ortiz would presently eat jabs all night and would have to catch Fury with a counter...Ortiz has really good counter punching ability and so does Fury.

[LoadedWraps]

Fury is so open for the left hooks (wlad's signature punch).
Form Chisorra fight, through Pajkic, Cunningham and Abell he always leaves himself open for hooks.

I would take Wlad by KO 8-10 with the left hook.

[Simurgh]

this is the 2nd time you are digging up my old same post. fury was very cautious and disciplined, credit to him.
I said numerous times on this thread it is 50:50 fight. (!before the figh)

just let me know if you intend to do this every 10 days with the new gif. I admire the energy to go through 600+ pages every week. kudos!

I dont mind btw. if it does something for you, feel free! just watch not to repeat same gif twice...

[LoadedWraps]

this is the 2nd time you are digging up my old same post. fury was very cautious and disciplined, credit to him.
I said numerous times on this thread it is 50:50 fight. (!before the figh)

just let me know if you intend to do this every 10 days with the new gif. I admire the energy to go through 600+ pages every week. kudos!

I dont mind btw. if it does something for you, feel free! just watch not to repeat same gif twice...

LOL! I didn't even realize I quoted you twice. I just go through the early pages of this thread and find some comical stuff that has me cramping

[Elroy1]

Ridiculous post. Vlad got clocked with hooks and his knees went while his arms straightened...thats not hurting someone?

Some of the Vlad diehards are sort of working back up to the azz-umptions they held before the fight...and Vlad did not let his hands go. he caught Fury with a shot that was slo moed...once and Fury laughed at him.

I seen those posts of vids where you claimed he was hurt, and just as I suspected, it was nothing!

The idea that Wlad was hurt at all by featherfist Fury is a nut bag theory.

Sure Fury clocked him good and flush. And Wlad shrugged it off basically. End of!

Stand down nut bag!! Stand down!

[Simurgh]

LOL! I didn't even realize I quoted you twice. I just go through the early pages of this thread and find some comical stuff that has me cramping

fair play, dont mind you havinga a good time, just wanted to let you know you already did that. Though I hope you dont go over 600 pages multiple times. that sounds painful and a bit disturbing... I posted that post 18 months ago.. And you qouted it twice in the last 2 weeks.. hm..

on topic as I said I had this as 50:50 fight and Wlad's biggest challenge since the fight was sign. The first comment came on merit of Fury's poor performances, but of course he wasnt fully on or with peter in his corner. I think the comment was before he fought chissora as well... as you like digging the old posts you might want to see some of my posts a few months before the fight, not a few years

[billeau2]

I seen those posts of vids where you claimed he was hurt, and just as I suspected, it was nothing!

The idea that Wlad was hurt at all by featherfist Fury is a nut bag theory.

Sure Fury clocked him good and flush. And Wlad shrugged it off basically. End of!

Stand down nut bag!! Stand down!

Your advice is great, applied to yourself. Sorry tape does not lie. You have no credability anyway....If a poster like Simurgh disagreed with me i would probably agree to disagree but a difference of opinion with you is akin to verification that one is correct.

[billeau2]

I seen those posts of vids where you claimed he was hurt, and just as I suspected, it was nothing!

The idea that Wlad was hurt at all by featherfist Fury is a nut bag theory.

Sure Fury clocked him good and flush. And Wlad shrugged it off basically. End of!

Stand down nut bag!! Stand down!

Ready to get owned again idiot?

Here are three KO percentages:

84
84
84

Here are three fighters:

Vitalie K
Vlad K
Tyson F

Vitalie has one of the highest KO percentages at 83% if you count the Odlanair Solis fight, which I would not do, but to be fair....then all guys are roughly at 84%. Feather fisted? Again you show ******ity. If one went over carefully all the fights and all the circumstances things might change a bit but one thing is painfully obvious...painful if it is you at least... "Feather Fisted" Fury has a percentage on par with Vitalie, thats right! So who is feather fisted now? I counted TKO's and anything that stopped the other guy from continuing because if a man was stopped we can't say whether he would have been kO'ed or not. Obviously if he went the distance we can say that he was/would not be KO'ed.

lets take an average fighter who is coming up around the same basic circumstances for the sake of comparison with Fury...lets take Bryant Jennings. His Ko percentage is around 50%. Lets take a veteran like Tony Thyompson...no slouch, he could be compared to Vlad for example...his ko percentage is around just under 55% you see where i am going with this? Its not like all heavyweights hover around 80%...Deontay Wilder has almost a perfect percentage, which amounts to roughly 4-5 more stoppages.

According to any basic measure Fury has one of the best ko percentages of any current heavyweight.

As said, I am including tko's in this analysis and any stoppage of the other guy before the fight concludes, but if I didn't it would not change the picture much... So once again, stand down nutbag stand down!!

[Elroy1]

See what you just did there Bill??

TYPICAL nut bag response...

Let's just focus on a very narrow band of data that serves my point, and forget the big picture analysis that completely destroys my point

OBVIOUSLY once you take into account the level of bloody opposition we find that both K's fought several times better opponents to achieve their records didn't they.

Oh but SKILLS and other attributes don't contribute at ALL to a boxing match do they!

Unbelievable!



Someone send this guy back to History!

[billeau2]

See what you just did there Bill??

TYPICAL nut bag response...



OBVIOUSLY once you take into account the level of bloody opposition we find that both K's fought several times better opponents to achieve their records didn't they.

Oh but SKILLS and other attributes don't contribute at ALL to a boxing match do they!

Unbelievable!



Someone send this guy back to History!

I knew you would try that response...its BS for a number of reasons:

a) You can't call someone a "feather fist" if they are knocking out there comp. Whether you like it, or not, if Fury had fought the worse tomatoe cans ever (ad he didn't),
1) He knocked as many of them out % wise as Vlad, so we know he dealt with his comp by stopping them, no matter how bad you think they may be. Its like trying to prove a negative, you can't prove a guy is not a puncher when he is KOing people. And
2) he also beat Vlad, so the facts are that Fury is knocking out his comp and beat the best in the division. This does not add up to being a fighter who could only materially affect subpar opposition...yeah those narrow things, that get in the way of your BS, they are called FACTS Elroid, try using them once in a while!

What the facts tell us is a totally different story than your uninformed garbage that goes for an opinion. basically Vlad, fighting weak comp has fought from the same general pool as Fury. Thats just the way it is. You cannot say that Vlad has fought better comp, only that he has fought the same comp longer than Fury. if we include both Klit brothers, in fact, Fury did better against Chisora than Vitalie! i know i know! Derrick was just gone and beyond it when he fought Fury right? sorry, thats BS and you know it.

I will continue to show how full of **** you are, like Joe Louis said b1tch you can run but you cannot hide. I have taken you apart piece by piece exposing your bs point by point and all you can respond with consistantly is that using facts neglects the big picture... What a ****** supposition.

Person A: "the moon is made out of cheese".
Person B: "The moon has been formed out of rock and other material formed through gravitational pull and other forces.'
person A: "See you refuse to see the big picture because I have a ****** hypothesis, stop using facts that act to narrowly prove your point." The moon is a dairy product because i say so, no proof needed you nutbag.

keep running Elroid, your BS cannot escape the clear light of reason! must suck posting here with me on your Azz huh? I would say getting a taste of your own medicine but this would be incorrect because you have never once supported any of your ridiculous suppositions with any logic, instead all you have ever done is employ ad hominum attacks.