Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Burt Saxby]

Wlad clnches, as does Ward and Mayweather those guys were recognised as p4p no.1 and no.2

Since when is fore-arming down on the back of fighters necks clinching? Dragging guys in and pressing all his weight down on their shoulders is not clinching.

You don't know what the clinch is. Since you only watch Klitschko , you think what Wlad does is clinching. You are wrong.

Ward and Floyd don't have the massive height and weight advantage to lean all over guys like Wlad does.
Maidana broke clean out of Floyds hold more times than not and Floyd had to do what every other boxer does - take shots on the gloves , slip , parry or take the shot clean. Which is what happened.
Wlad never brought his guard up in his life. He can't. He has no defence. No head movement , upper body movement , nothing. Take away his holding and he gets destroyed a la Brewster I.

When Ward holds , he breaks almost immediately and lets shots go on the inside. He is one of the most compact and crafty punchers on the inside since Joe Louis.
Wlad throws a punch in close and he hits himself in the face. Hilarious to call this guy an ATG when he is so utterly useless at boxing outside of gab and grab.

yOU SIMPLY DON'T UNDERSTAND BOXING if you look at Ward and Floyd and see Wlad.

[STEELHEAD]

The fight should have been treat as a joke, some of the photos of Fury from that fight are hilarious and a message of how not to live your life lol.

Abell is an absolute can, a D level opponent. Fury looked visibly unnerved numerous times when Abell caught him, thankfully he came through the fight without incident like the USS and Pajkic fights or we could have had a scenario where Chisora was mandated for Klitschko, what an awful defence that would have been and would no doubt have drawn as much criticism for Klitschko having to facing the mandated Leapai.

Fury ballooning between fights is unprofessional, Wlad will never been seen in retirement looking like Fury looks between camps. Call it what it is but that is detrimental to your career, Fury should look no further than Manchester cohort Ricky Hatton to understand it did him zero favours when facing the elite fighters in his division.

fairly concise and too the point Scott-Weiland. thanks!

[Burt Saxby]

If a referee permits it you can not criticise the boxer in question for utilising said tactic,

Yes you can. He is the one fouling. He is the one entirely at fault. The house ref is the same as hometown judges. And yes , Wlad clearly had his house ref in Russia.

You really don't know anything about boxing , do you?

[Jewish-Reptile]

Since when is fore-arming down on the back of fighters necks clinching? Dragging guys in and pressing all his weight down on their shoulders is not clinching.

You don't know what the clinch is. Since you only watch Klitschko , you think what Wlad does is clinching. You are wrong.

Ward and Floyd don't have the massive height and weight advantage to lean all over guys like Wlad does.
Maidana broke clean out of Floyds hold more times than not and Floyd had to do what every other boxer does - take shots on the gloves , slip , parry or take the shot clean. Which is what happened.
Wlad never brought his guard up in his life. He can't. He has no defence. No head movement , upper body movement , nothing. Take away his holding and he gets destroyed a la Brewster I.

When Ward holds , he breaks almost immediately and lets shots go on the inside. He is one of the most compact and crafty punchers on the inside since Joe Louis.
Wlad throws a punch in close and he hits himself in the face. Hilarious to call this guy an ATG when he is so utterly useless at boxing outside of gab and grab.

yOU SIMPLY DON'T UNDERSTAND BOXING if you look at Ward and Floyd and see Wlad.

Here is Burt to come along and give us some more sig worthy quotes. Nothing you say Burt can I take serious with your whopping humour, to me you're just another Daggum, a half witted moron not meant to be taken serious and here on the site just for comedic value.

I'm going to be honest with you, I did not even read your post in its entirety.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Yes you can. He is the one fouling. He is the one entirely at fault. The house ref is the same as hometown judges. And yes , Wlad clearly had his house ref in Russia.

You really don't know anything about boxing , do you?

You can, others don't.

House ref, are you aware it was a world of boxing promotion aka Andrei Ryabinksi and not a K2 promotion. Go home Burt.

[Burt Saxby]

You can, others don't.

House ref, are you aware it was a world of boxing promotion aka Andrei Ryabinksi and not a K2 promotion. Go home Burt.

Are you aware that Wlad was the champion and the A side. He got what he wanted. Only a moron would believe the ref was on Povetkins side. Counting 3 throw downs as legit KDs???.

Both Pabon and Wlad should have been banned from the sport after that debacle. Both absolute bottom of the barrel disgrace jobs.

[LacedUp]

Wlad clnches, as does Ward and Mayweather those guys were recognised as p4p no.1 and no.2 until recently ! What's your point here ? I'm stating this has potential to be an extremely ugly fight between two guys literally the same size and known to clinch excessively in certain fights.

Not in the real world ? Have you seen Chisora versus Fury 1 ? That was as ugly a fight I ever saw, if not the ugliest. Of course Fury is super exciting so it is failed to mentioned when talking to his fans. Even in his other notable fights against tough punchers he's shown nous in when to clinch.

Fury has his reservations over his own chin and durability as much as his detractors do, though he will be the last to admit it. I remember the Abell fight well, the guy looks like he's in a real flap in the instances Joey touched his chin.

Ward and Mayweather clinch 20 times a fight. Wlad clinches 150 times a fight. There's a difference.

But when has Fury ever clinched really? He's not known for that and has never been known for it.

You are talking about Fury in 2011 who fought like a fat steamtrain with no skills. He is not the same fighter today.

[beez721]

Ward and Mayweather clinch 20 times a fight. Wlad clinches 150 times a fight. There's a difference.

But when has Fury ever clinched really? He's not known for that and has never been known for it.

You are talking about Fury in 2011 who fought like a fat steamtrain with no skills. He is not the same fighter today.

wlad leans alot more than the other guys becuz of his height but with the exception of the povetkin fight he doesnt clinch much more

[LacedUp]

wlad leans alot more than the other guys becuz of his height but with the exception of the povetkin fight he doesnt clinch much more

That's no excuse to lean.

He does though. Aside from the Kessler fight, Ward clinches 2-3 times a round. Wlad averages upwards 10 or more in pretty much every fight, incl. Povetkin, Jennings & Pulev.

Mayweather doesn't even compare at all.

Klitschko clinched/held/leaned 96 times against Jennings according to CompuClinch numbers - which is more than any fight incl. Ward or Mayweather.

[SlySlickSmooth]

I'm surprised Klitschko was allowed to hold as much as he did against Povetkin with the fight in Russia and all.