Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Elroy1]

What keys to victory would Wlad see in Fury's fights with Johnson and Hammer?

Both were near flawless performances by Tyson.

I think Fury's key to victory is to do something no opponent of Wlad's has ever done before - outscore Wlad at long range and force him to either attack and fight offensively close up, or lose his titles on points.

Duh!

Except that option is virtually impossible. Nobody has or probably ever will be able to "out-box" Wlad, his style is basically invincible now.

By the time we see another fighter come around as good maybe 50-100 years in the future, Wlad will be long gone!

I thought the same with Lennox Lewis- but this time the bar has been raised so high it is difficult to imagine anybody topping this career anytime in the foreseeable future. ESPECIALLY not bloody Fury!

[Szef]

Not necessarily, but his jab is still better than Pulev's. Joshua's is infinitely better than Pulev's too. So is Wilder's.

Oh yeah? When has Jennings stopped or dropped an opponent to the body? Even hurt them? Fury has several stoppage wins coming from body shots - He also set up the KO over Cunningham with a wicked right uppercut to the body.

Jennings' bodywork look sloppy and inconclusive, not much meat on it. Chisora for instance, also absolutely craps all over Jennings' body work too.

Jennings throw good combos though. I've seen him throw a left-right to the body and come up with an uppercut. Nice move. But still not as good as Fury's I'd say.

Go look at Fury's southpaw left hook to the body in the Chisora fight. Also quicker, harder and just better than anything Jennings has in his entire locker, let alone the body shot department.

Oh, referencing a Fury uppercut to his face as a 20 year old absolute novice? How original.

Shall I reference a 10 year long champion doing the same thing at the peak of his powers?

boring.

Both Joshua and Wilder are unproven, and so are their jabs. One decent fight against Stiverne doesn't prove much to be honest. He fought better than expected, that's it.

Joshua is still a prospect, once he's fought someone for more than 3 rounds and actually used his jab to break his opponent down (like Pulev against Ustinov for example), let me know.

Jennings knocked Szpilka down with a body shot and won the fight thanks to the combination of his own body work and Szpilka's stamina issues. He also ended the fight with a beautiful combo that I doubt Fury could've thrown without punching himself at least twice.

Don't even get me started about that Cuningham KO, Fury's illegal tactics and roughing the smaller man up is what won him that fight, not his mythical skills.

And yeah, I remember that body shot, you could've seen it coming from a mile away. It was really nothing special. Well maybe special for Tyson Fury, but that's not the point.

Chisora has a decent body work, I admit. Years ago, he could work the body really good, especially against Vitali.

Now he's a post KTFO shot version of a fighter who's best known for losing to Vitali Klitschko, brawling with David Haye on the post fight conference and eventually getting knocked out by Haye.

Oh, he's also Tyson Fury's best win.

[Szef]

Dont worry because i will

Damn, you got me.

I really didn't know when I was clowning Fury that one of you would pick on that...

Then again, you're the guy who said that Tyson Fury, not Mike Tyson, is the real Tyson (whatever the **** that means), and that he would beat him (Mike) in a boxing match.

Now you're trolling the US posters and pretend to be a Deontay Wilder fan.

Pathetic.

Keep em sarcastic comments coming though, bro

[LacedUp]

Both Joshua and Wilder are unproven, and so are their jabs. One decent fight against Stiverne doesn't prove much to be honest. He fought better than expected, that's it.

Joshua is still a prospect, once he's fought someone for more than 3 rounds and actually used his jab to break his opponent down (like Pulev against Ustinov for example), let me know.

Jennings knocked Szpilka down with a body shot and won the fight thanks to the combination of his own body work and Szpilka's stamina issues. He also ended the fight with a beautiful combo that I doubt Fury could've thrown without punching himself at least twice.

Don't even get me started about that Cuningham KO, Fury's illegal tactics and roughing the smaller man up is what won him that fight, not his mythical skills.

And yeah, I remember that body shot, you could've seen it coming from a mile away. It was really nothing special. Well maybe special for Tyson Fury, but that's not the point.

Chisora has a decent body work, I admit. Years ago, he could work the body really good, especially against Vitali.

Now he's a post KTFO shot version of a fighter who's best known for losing to Vitali Klitschko, brawling with David Haye on the post fight conference and eventually getting knocked out by Haye.

Oh, he's also Tyson Fury's best win.

In what world is Pulev more proven than Wilder? They've both beaten taxi drivers exclusively. Joshua's competition is the same level as Pulev is used to fighting on, bar 1-2 fights.

He doesn't need to do what you want him to do. Why would he use his jab to break down an opponent when he can use it like a real man uses it and sets up the right hand? Ustinov

Jennings was headhunting in the Szpilka fight the majority of the time and the stoppage didn't come as a result of bodyshot. Is Szpilka on any sort of level worth talking about anyway? No.

Chisora had great bodywork after Haye too. But Fury put it on him and his body.

Cunningham > Szpilka.

[LacedUp]

Duh!

Except that option is virtually impossible. Nobody has or probably ever will be able to "out-box" Wlad, his style is basically invincible now.

By the time we see another fighter come around as good maybe 50-100 years in the future, Wlad will be long gone!

I thought the same with Lennox Lewis- but this time the bar has been raised so high it is difficult to imagine anybody topping this career anytime in the foreseeable future. ESPECIALLY not bloody Fury!

This guy

[Sweet Pea 50]

This is my new favorite thread on NSB.

[LoadedWraps]

Yeah hey **** resume then...

We all know what the tools/strengths your referring to that you believe Fury can use...

Problem is, nobody has ever remotely troubled Wlad without at the very least a very hard single shot punch, and a strong chin.

Somehow it is a stretch of the imagination to think Fury can "out-box" Wladimir with rangy windmakers.

But you go ahead and bet on your man Fury and see what happens.

It's a stretch to you, because you wouldn't give Fury an ounce of respect and credibility if we offered you money to do so.

We can talk all day about Wlad not being troubled by this fighter or that fighter, but two facts remain that make comments like this silly: Wlad has never faced a monster like Fury, and Wlad has dominated the weakest era in HW history.

[RED REP]

Duh!

Except that option is virtually impossible. Nobody has or probably ever will be able to "out-box" Wlad, his style is basically invincible now.

By the time we see another fighter come around as good maybe 50-100 years in the future, Wlad will be long gone!

I thought the same with Lennox Lewis- but this time the bar has been raised so high it is difficult to imagine anybody topping this career anytime in the foreseeable future. ESPECIALLY not bloody Fury!

Hahahahaha. Oh my good god what have you just wrote!

[RED REP]

Before this fight was signed this guy said it was a near 50-50 fight

Then he couldn't take how some people gave Fury a shot and said it was near impossible for Fury to win.

Completely cringey behaviour.

This!!! What an absolute loser he is.

[LoadedWraps]

you two are funny.

before cunningham, earl hickey (mr america) was ****riding fury like no one else on this forum, he had both tyson and hughie in his avy and sig, and was saying all kinds of ******, delusional ****.

after the fight, when cunningham showed how great tyson fury really is, he was butt hurt as hell for weeks and then just disappeared

Coming from a moron whose posted such gems as Leapie being better than Joe Frazier, this has to be taken as a compliment.

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