Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

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Thanks for sharing. Fury will prove his doubters wrong with his fists. What a phenom he truly is, A HW with his speed, ring IQ, and punch repertoire, and size? Wlad knows he will be in the fight of his life and his fans are in full blown denial.

If it helps you sleep better at night

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Fury says that he hasn't trained at all since the Hammer fight, then came in the gym and sparred 15 rounds straight away. Now yeah, take this with a pinch of salt, but speak to anyone who trains with Fury, be it Chambers or Cunningham or anyone else, and they'll tell you that Fury is a machine.

It's not that hard to believe and it means he's in great shape, but going 15 rounds of sparring without falling over isn't the same as winning a real fight for the same amount of time.

I could spar for 100 rounds non-stop I just don't think anyone would find it enjoyable to watch after 5 minutes.

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Pointless? Fury has only fought 22 rounds since the Cunningham fight. And many believe Steve was his best opponent to date. So, how can it possibly be pointless to reflect on what happened in that fight?

As far as Wald is concerned, since his last lose he has had almost as many fights as Fury has had in his entire career. And most of them have been against legit top ten fighters.

It's pointless primarily because it wasn't a typical performance by Fury, at least not if recent fights are anything to go by. It was Fury's first major fight on US soil and he was trying to impress the American crowd. As such he got carried away with the bravado and other macho nonsense, fighting with his hands down, verbally taunting Steve, throwing wild haymakers from a mile out and leaving himself vulnerable to counter shots. That he won at all fighting that ******ly is testament to his innate talents as a fighter, but it shouldn't be looked at as a template for how Fury is going to fight Wlad.

The Johnson, Hammer and Chisora fights are what people should be looking at to see what a focused and tuned in Fury can achieve. And I think it's pretty obvious that Fury is going to be focused against Wlad, isn't it?

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Pointless? Fury has only fought 22 rounds since the Cunningham fight. And many believe Steve was his best opponent to date. So, how can it possibly be pointless to reflect on what happened in that fight?

As far as Wald is concerned, since his last lose he has had almost as many fights as Fury has had in his entire career. And most of them have been against legit top ten fighters.

It's pointless primarily because it wasn't a typical performance by Fury, at least not if recent fights are anything to go by. It was Fury's first major fight on US soil and he was trying to impress the American crowd. As such he got carried away with the bravado and other macho nonsense, fighting with his hands down, verbally taunting Steve, throwing wild haymakers from a mile out and leaving himself vulnerable to counter shots. That he won at all fighting that ******ly is testament to his innate talents as a fighter, but it shouldn't be looked at as a template for how Fury is going to fight Wlad.

The Johnson, Hammer and Chisora fights are what people should be looking at to see what a focused and tuned in Fury can achieve. And I think it's pretty obvious that Fury is going to be focused against Wlad, isn't it?

Not forgetting that Peter Fury wasn't in his corner because he was refused a visa.



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[Szef]

If it helps you sleep better at night

this is my favourite thread at the moment.

these furytards are something else lol

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Fury is a fighter who utilizes alot of movement. He has legs. Anybody who watches his fights knows that.

One of the very few guys Wlad fought that moved well was DaVarryl Williamson.

Wlad was thoroughly exposed by Williamson - getting floored then quitting after only the 5th round.

You need more than legs to beat Vladimir.

[Earl-Hickey]

You need more than legs to beat Vladimir.

Indeed

It is an asset which has the potential to make things interesting though, fury has a few of those

Movement, decent jab, reach, punch variety, inside game.

Most heavyweights these days don't have that range in their arsenal, they are either plodders with power or short guys who move but dont have reach or sped to get through

If fury can land his jab on klitschko, he's already doing more than most. On the inside, fury has skills to negate the clinch which again is more than most. So he has attributes to utilise different tactics in this fight.

Wlad is a heavy favourite, but the fight is stylistically interesting

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I would say likewise that you have contributed well, and objectively, in this thread. I highlighted the main key point in the whole argument - can he do all that he does well, against someone the calibre of Wlad. I have serious doubts, but still you can never rule it out for sure. Self-confidence I wouldn't look into much because arguably Haye was even more self-confident, or at least gave that illusion, and was also more experienced and seemingly more likely to be a guy to really hurt Wlad, but we saw his real mindset in the ring.

I'd agree though that Fury doesn't take himself too seriously, unlike Haye, and won't make excuses if he loses. He will probably have fun in there because he is a born brawler...which adds a lot of intrigue...but i'm just interested how he will react in terms of the comparison of getting hit hard by light-punching cruiserweight Cunningham, and one of the ATG punchers in Wlad.

Haye was always an act from the beginning, though how much of that was conscious and how much subconscious I don't know. Perhaps he really believed a lot of the nonsense he spewed, or convinced himself to believe it. At any rate he was a man increasingly blurring the lines between delusion and reality. That was obvious long before the Wlad fight, though it took the physical fact of the defeat to hit it home for most people.

With Fury it's different. Like you said, there's a genuine tongue-in-cheekedness to a lot of what he says, a wink and a cheesy grin to let you know it's all show business, all just a bit of fun. Behind the cameras he's a remarkably sober and level-headed individual, as a lot of his interviews show (including the one denium posted).

Maybe I'm just being naive, or letting my like of Fury distort my perceptions, but I genuinely believe him when he says a lot of the things he says (and isn't obviously making outrageous claims for the sake of it). His self confidence is very real and will play a big part in the fight, not necessarily in his favour, but I'd be very surprised if we see a repeat of the Haye fiasco. Fury says he's going to give it his all, and I have no reason to doubt him.

Regarding his punch resistance, I definitely expect Fury to be hurt at some point by Wlad, though I don't automatically think that'll be the end if he does. Cunningham caught him when he was unprepared for the shot. He's been hit by big punches since then and not gone down. Of course, no one hits with quite the same chilling power and accuracy as Wlad and it's very possible he could knock Fury unconscious on his feet. It's one of the question marks hanging over this fight, whether Fury will be able to withstand a clean shot from Wlad, or be able to consistently take the edge off his shots when he does get hit. Possibly. I don't know.

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this is my favourite thread at the moment.

these furytards are something else lol

"Chisora ends the hype doe"

[Szef]

"Chisora ends the hype doe"

Thread's still funny, doe.