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Originally posted by Scott-Weiland View PostNo sane person would refer to Wlad's previous title run as his prime as opposed to his ten year run he is currently on ! You're ******ed.Last edited by KnockoutNed; 07-15-2015, 10:50 AM.
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Originally posted by KnockoutNedQuote:
Originally Posted by Scott-Weiland
No sane person would refer to Wlad's previous title run as his prime as opposed to his ten year run he is currently on ! You're ******ed.
Only a delusional Wlad fanboy like yourself would argue that a fighter in their late 20s with 40+ pro bouts is not prime and that a 40yr old athlete is physically more prime than in in their mid-late 20s. The obvious logic leads to conclusions that you lot aren't comfortable enough to deal with so you must hold on to fantasy.
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It's all about the mental aspect and to this day Wladimir is FUMING that they Haye-Fury fight didn't happen.
Wlad fought Wach simply because he's a big guy and he wanted to prepare for the wrath of Fury in 2013, to be fair he probably would've beat Fury in 2013 but he would've preferred someone else to do the dirty work for him while he fought the mighty Pianeta. As we know the big money Haye-Fury was going to happen and the chances were that Haye would've knock out the erratic Fury, and with a monster 5 million payday who knows whether Fury would have ever been back to his best? Most likely, Fury would have been out of the way and Wladimir could sleep well at night.
Instead, Fury had to come back and appreciate his craft even more in order to position himself for a great payday. Now we're here in late 2015 and Fury is on the brink of greatness.Last edited by Caught Square; 07-15-2015, 11:32 AM.
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Originally posted by KnockoutNed View PostOnly a delusional Wlad fanboy like yourself would argue that a fighter in their late 20s with 40+ pro bouts is not prime and that a 40yr old athlete is physically more prime than in in their mid-late 20s. The obvious logic leads to conclusions that you lot aren't comfortable enough to deal with so you must hold on to fantasy.
The fact that Wlad's defense is holding or clinching is quite irrelevant, because at the end of the day it is very likely if Wlad knew to do that as an almost reflexive action as it seems to be now, he likely wouldn't have got into the escalating situation with Sanders where he, as he openly admitted, got pissed off and shocked that this seemingly old, end of career South African could drop him. So he went right back for revenge rather than worrying about jabbing to maintain distance or even clinch as he would have done in the 'prime' Steward-tutelage years.
I don't think anyone would say Wlad is 'prime' right now, but that's still enough to be at the top of this current division, and I'm certain is enough to beat Fury.
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Originally posted by KnockoutNed View PostOnly a delusional Wlad fanboy like yourself would argue that a fighter in their late 20s with 40+ pro bouts is not prime and that a 40yr old athlete is physically more prime than in in their mid-late 20s. The obvious logic leads to conclusions that you lot aren't comfortable enough to deal with so you must hold on to fantasy.
You give Fury fans a bad name.
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Originally posted by KnockoutNed View PostOnly a delusional Wlad fanboy like yourself would argue that a fighter in their late 20s with 40+ pro bouts is not prime and that a 40yr old athlete is physically more prime than in in their mid-late 20s. The obvious logic leads to conclusions that you lot aren't comfortable enough to deal with so you must hold on to fantasy.
About 3 posters have been trying to explain that to you but you dont seem to get it
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Originally posted by PainfromUkraine View PostPhysical prime means nothing when you are getting hit by flush power shots that you are unable to defend - or rather don't know HOW to defend. 'Prime' Wlad was likely the 35 year old version that fought Haye - perfectly balanced in terms of physical peak and also mental strength and knowledge of how to overcome certain situations. Haye probably could have knocked out Wlad also had it been the 28/29 year old version or whatever he was when he fought Sanders.
The fact that Wlad's defense is holding or clinching is quite irrelevant, because at the end of the day it is very likely if Wlad knew to do that as an almost reflexive action as it seems to be now, he likely wouldn't have got into the escalating situation with Sanders where he, as he openly admitted, got pissed off and shocked that this seemingly old, end of career South African could drop him. So he went right back for revenge rather than worrying about jabbing to maintain distance or even clinch as he would have done in the 'prime' Steward-tutelage years.
I don't think anyone would say Wlad is 'prime' right now, but that's still enough to be at the top of this current division, and I'm certain is enough to beat Fury.
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Originally posted by Easy Work. View Postwlad wasnt in his prime in his mid to late 20's. His prime was in his 30's and hes at his peak now. Kind of like lennox lewis he got better as he got older.
About 3 posters have been trying to explain that to you but you dont seem to get it
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