Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[billeau2]

The attempts to discredit Fury are pathetic. Pulev is in no way a better fighter, it's foolish to even try and make that argment.

Wlad-tards are laughable.

Pulev is very different. he comes out of this proto type that has been a fixture in the heavyweight division from the late 80's on. You have these Eastern European/Russian fighters who fight according to strict european orthodoxy: hands held high, limited mobility, strict use of punches with no improvisation, etc.

Some of these guys like povatkin, can move a little bit, can punch a bit harder, but as a class they are distinguished in how they fight according to a quasi-olympic style where one squares up and tries to land their punches. Many times these guys are spoilers because they are able to beat good punchers by out working them.

Theb problem is that this style does not emphasize how to move in the ring. These guys tend to stand still and square...One can watch how the great Cuban heavyweights used reach and speed to run circles around these guys. Talented fighters tend to improve upon this base of tecniques and and learn to do things like improvise.

Pulov is actually a lot like Vlad. They both emphasize the punches and good form. Vlad has developed an exellent jab and power in this capacity. Pulov, while less than Vlad, had similar attributes.

BUT: neither guy can move, has any footwork to speak of. Pulov stood still and Vlad also can clinch and do little else and that is what makes Fury unique. Fury's trainers have a boxing education and have made sure Fury has a wealth of different skills to draw upon. Fury may not be the best at these skills but he is capable of using them under pressure, so he may rely upon them.

Picture for a second if Berto had been able to atg least fight inside when Floyd illegally elbowed him...or if Berto had the footwork to back up when punching instead of letting Floyd react to his punches (Floyd on back leg can see shoulder move) and smother them. He would have been more succesful.

Fury can do these things while Pulov cannot. Some of us on here believe that Vlad is very weak in these other areas which means that if Fury is able to execute aned stop Vlad from illegal clinches, he should have success. Its not just moving past Vlad's jab either..it means setting traps, feinting and knowing the proper distance when getting an opportunity to attack. Fury has been mastering these skills, unlike any Eastern Euro/Russian style fighter such as Pulov.

[billeau2]

When is Elroy going to upload a video of himself hitting the heavy bag?

That would be great. I want to be able to have bragging rights here in
Baltimore that I know a guy who can punch as hard as big George and would have dropped James...like a Figg from a tree! A guy who would have given the great John L Sullivan a pink belly. A guy who would have made jack question the size of his Johnson!

Seriously I am promising now not to poke fun at any vids posted by Elroy...Post it Elroy.

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That would be great. I want to be able to have bragging rights here in
Baltimore that I know a guy who can punch as hard as big George and would have dropped James...like a Figg from a tree! A guy who would have given the great John L Sullivan a pink belly. A guy who would have made jack question the size of his Johnson!

Seriously I am promising now not to poke fun at any vids posted by Elroy...Post it Elroy.

I found it.

[billeau2]

I found it.

Elroys one punch power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxA70g2Cmqg

"Tyson's a joke."

[El-blanco]

Are you still wowwing them at the gym junior? showing them how you can puch as hard as George Foreman when someone holds the bag for you, and that any pub brawler would walk through the division?

haha that's one of my favourites from him.

[Æthelstan]

Fury will win by ko in a late round.. break Klit down first maybe drop him a couple of times

[1hourRun]

*strong language* -tyson fury uncut on klitschko, joshua-whyte, depression & slams 'a


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Not gonna lie, this interview really changed my view of Tyson. A lot more respect for him.

Although, he's obviously not gonna retire if he loses to Klitschko

[Elroy1]

Fighting your mandatory is not necessarily fighting the best opponent. Case in point when Vlad fought the UPS man from new Zealand. Sometimes yu fight who the fans want to see you fight. Lewis did this a few times.

The devil is in the details junior.

So please enlighten me then...

Show me all these better than mandatory opponents that Wladimir has missed out on?

This should be good

The guy has totally cleaned out the division around 4 or 5 times now. No other boxer in history has done that. Not even Lennox Lewis!

(On the Foreman heavybag)

Again, my statement there was clearly indicative of something more obvious.

That that video of Foreman hitting the heavybag, was nothing special and when you show it to any normal person, the response is 99% the same...

It looks pathetic! Hard sure, but nothing out of this world! And devoid of all skills whatsoever.

However someone has mentioned guys "holding" the bag for me.

Let me assure you I don't need anybody to hold it for me to smash a bag like Foreman!

[LacedUp]

So please enlighten me then...

Show me all these better than mandatory opponents that Wladimir has missed out on?

This should be good

The guy has totally cleaned out the division around 4 or 5 times now. No other boxer in history has done that. Not even Lennox Lewis!

(On the Foreman heavybag)

Again, my statement there was clearly indicative of something more obvious.

That that video of Foreman hitting the heavybag, was nothing special and when you show it to any normal person, the response is 99% the same...

It looks pathetic! Hard sure, but nothing out of this world! And devoid of all skills whatsoever.

However someone has mentioned guys "holding" the bag for me.

Let me assure you I don't need anybody to hold it for me to smash a bag like Foreman!

I don't think you know the reason behind him holding it

Once again exposing your lack of understanding.