Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Boxing Goat]

Wrong. Its a fabrication thats been exaggerated by K-turds to brush away the fact Wlad was nearly knocked out and struggled with an absolute bum with no skills.

Peter never had skills - even when he was unbeaten. That was blatantly evident to anybody who knew what boxing skill was. You clowns try make out he was like Mike Tyson which he most certainly was not so it would only make perfect sense that you were not around at the time.

The poll here says it all. The people who thought Peter had any chance knew nothing about boxing and you just outed yourself as one of them.

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He out-boxed James Toney who had abused Holyfield at heavyweight.

So Peter knew nothing about boxing and done that?

You're dumb

[billeau2]

Toney lost twice to Peter , even got out-boxed in fact......SMH

Toney was competitive and embarrassed peter. I do stand corrected but if peter was such a force to be reckoned with, why could a blown up cruiser present such a problem for him? My point is not "triangle theory" because regardless of styles making fights, or particular opponents being a big problem, the skill level of a marquee heavyweight should be such that when a blown up cruiser...an out of shape cruiser challenges, he should not be much competition.

It gets better though. Peter had to get into what many considered the best shape of his life for that second Toney fight. Toney didn't just take punches either, he was competative and gave Peter quite a fight.

I just don't think one can say Peter was a really good fighter. Vitali showed that Peter was a clod. Peter was slow, had no reactivity in the ring, and ultimately was exposed as being far less than steller opposition. Kudos to Vitali for more or less showing how a strong heavy weight with a jab would deal with Peter.

[billeau2]

peter was always crude and plodding but he was dangerous back when wlad fought him. quit being an idiot

Do you really think a champion on the order of Tyson, Lewis, Liston, Patterson, Ali etc would have much trouble with Peter? Its a legitimate gripe...Look even Vitali who most consider inferior to Vlad (I don't) showed exactly what a champion with a decent jab would do to Peter.

[Boxing Goat]

Eddie Chambers when in the worst shape of his career and operating at his slowest worst - easily beat Peter. He had less trouble with Peter than Wlad did.
What does Peter do for Chambers legacy? Absolutely nothing. So why would he be a highlight victory for former greats?

A joke like Peter would never had made it into contention. Tua was better than Peter in every possible way imaginable and he never came close to picking up a Belt because he campaigned in an era that wasn't a total joke like the one Wlad fought in- and Wlad still lost , struggled , fouled , cheated and required a tag partner to stay on top of it.

Hilarious you calling somebody else a simpleton. Your argument for everything is the same repetitive drivel an infant would dribble out.
You cannot put a case forward for these bums being any good. - your simple explanation is that they would beat the best of former era , despite the fact they couldn't even beat the worst in the ****test HW division since the 1880's.

Lol!!!! Chambers won by MD for crying out loud, and that was after getting his whole soul stripped out by Vitali 5 months earlier. Try again.

[Boxing Goat]

Toney was competitive and embarrassed peter. I do stand corrected but if peter was such a force to be reckoned with, why could a blown up cruiser present such a problem for him? My point is not "triangle theory" because regardless of styles making fights, or particular opponents being a big problem, the skill level of a marquee heavyweight should be such that when a blown up cruiser...an out of shape cruiser challenges, he should not be much competition.

It gets better though. Peter had to get into what many considered the best shape of his life for that second Toney fight. Toney didn't just take punches either, he was competative and gave Peter quite a fight.

I just don't think one can say Peter was a really good fighter. Vitali showed that Peter was a clod. Peter was slow, had no reactivity in the ring, and ultimately was exposed as being far less than steller opposition. Kudos to Vitali for more or less showing how a strong heavy weight with a jab would deal with Peter.

Vitali showed he was a world class atg heavyweight even at 38, who used his veteran instincts and technique very well in his comeback.

[Boxing Goat]

Do you really think a champion on the order of Tyson, Lewis, Liston, Patterson, Ali etc would have much trouble with Peter? Its a legitimate gripe...Look even Vitali who most consider inferior to Vlad (I don't) showed exactly what a champion with a decent jab would do to Peter.

Vitali is only inferior to Wlad in resume, not in actual ring ability. Everybody knows that.

[Burt Saxby]

He out-boxed James Toney who had abused Holyfield at heavyweight.

So Peter knew nothing about boxing and done that?

You're dumb

Mike Tyson beat Holmes and Berbick who beat Ali. Tyson must be the greatest of all time?

You don't really know what you are talking about do you?

Peter wouldn't have lasted the opening round against Mike Tyson or Joe Louis

MWs and LHWs beat and out boxed prime James Toney. A dangerous man at HW who bounced around Wlad Klitschko got out boxed by a fat and shot James Toney.
Toney who was years past it and not anymore good enough to compete in his own division went 1-1 over 24 rounds with Peter. Toney was robbed because he had no business or future at HW and because Peter was a Don King fighter.
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Let that sink in before you glorify this Sam Peter.

Robert Helenius ended his career in a one sided mis-match and who was Robert Hinenius? A guy who was beaten pillar to post by Derrick Chisora.

[Burt Saxby]

Lol!!!! Chambers won by MD for crying out loud, and that was after getting his whole soul stripped out by Vitali 5 months earlier. Try again.

What you do mean 'try again'.

Chambers stood centre of the ring and easily beat Peter popping out a jab. Chambers was too fat to move around.

Are you saying this didn't happen or did you just look up boxrec and saw the result was a majority dec making you think it was competitive?

[Elroy1]

Do you really think a champion on the order of Tyson, Lewis, Liston, Patterson, Ali etc would have much trouble with Peter? Its a legitimate gripe...Look even Vitali who most consider inferior to Vlad (I don't) showed exactly what a champion with a decent jab would do to Peter.

Peter KO Patterson in 10 seconds
Peter KO1 Ali1
Peter KO3 Ali2
Peter KO3 Liston
Tyson KO9 Peter in tough fight
Lewis UD Peter by run and gun ala Tua style

[Elroy1]

What you do mean 'try again'.

Chambers stood centre of the ring and easily beat Peter popping out a jab. Chambers was too fat to move around.

Are you saying this didn't happen or did you just look up boxrec and saw the result was a majority dec making you think it was competitive?

Chambers was perhaps the fastest HW boxer that ever lived you idiot, with nothing less than an "excellent" record, only ever losing t upper eschelon fighters.

The fact that Peter and Chambers fought to an MD is a PROOF of the quality of Peter as a boxer, NOT the other way around!

As usual you guys take a positive and spin it to a negative.

Disgraceful!!