Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[LacedUp]

ohh,,,I agree they werent fluke losses

Would he have won some immediate rematches? Probably.

But that doesn't take away from the legitimacy of the losses.

[Elroy1]

So? In every loss there's mistakes along the way. That's why they are losses. Saying it were flukes is completely idiotic and it screams denial.

All (most) fighters take a loss at some stage in their careers. You learn from it and improve.

He wasn't screwed out of a win, wasn't cheated on the scorecards, didn't even lose a shoulder or something. He lost completely fair and square three times.

He learned and moved on.

No, they were exactly flukes..

Mistakes were made sure, but they were nonetheless flukes where Wlad beat himself!

The mistakes which allowed the flukes were... Puritty- over-extending himself, a fluke only possible because of Puritty's chin anyway. Chances of Puritty winning remactch close to 0%.

Sanders- over-confidence, totally underestimating his opponent. Chances of Sanders winning rematch close to 0%.

Brewster- the mistake was being gravely sick, chances of Brester winning rematch, close to 0%

Similar situation happened to Lennox Lewis...

McCall and Rahman both defeated Lewis by way of complete fluke, the mistake LEwis made was the same for both- he simply underestimated them same as Wlad did for Sanders.

Same for Vitali...

Byrd.. Flukey injury...

LEnnox Flukey injury...

The chances of either Byrd or LEnnox winning a rematch- close to 0%!

I can't believe anybody could really argue this!!

And these 2 guys, WlAD AND leNNOX, ALONG WITH vITALI are the 3 only HW boxers who have never really lost a fight due to less than legit circumstances.

Facts at their best!!

[LacedUp]

No, they were exactly flukes..

Mistakes were made sure, but they were nonetheless flukes where Wlad beat himself!

The mistakes which allowed the flukes were... Puritty- over-extending himself, a fluke only possible because of Puritty's chin anyway. Chances of Puritty winning remactch close to 0%.

Sanders- over-confidence, totally underestimating his opponent. Chances of Sanders winning rematch close to 0%.

Brewster- the mistake was being gravely sick, chances of Brester winning rematch, close to 0%

Similar situation happened to Lennox Lewis...

McCall and Rahman both defeated Lewis by way of complete fluke, the mistake LEwis made was the same for both- he simply underestimated them same as Wlad did for Sanders.

I can't believe anybody could really argue this!!

And these 2 guys, WlAD AND leNNOX, ALONG WITH vITALI are the 3 only HW boxers who have never really lost a fight due to less than legit circumstances.

Facts at their best!!

Delusional.

[Elroy1]

Delusional.

Just keeping it realistic!

[LacedUp]

Just keeping it realistic!

No you aren't.

You are making ridiculous excuses that not even Wlad himself makes.

[Elroy1]

No you aren't.

You are making ridiculous excuses that not even Wlad himself makes.

What excuses?

Wlad was unprepared, unfocussed and overwhelmed by Sanders (and there was of course that massive head clash). This is evidenced on film.

Wlad almost died vs Brewster of a medical condition of which there is undisputable evidence.

Wlad gassed against Puritty and by looking at his record you can see than although Wlad had 20 odd fights, he'd only fought that many rounds roughly too (i.e. it was a GREEN against a VETERAN).

Where are the excuses?

An excuse implies there are other explanations, whereas these are the ONLY logical explanations given the evidence!

Contrarily it is YOU who take the end result and then try to FIND some reason for it other than the truth in order to discredit Wlad.

^^^ Fact!

[LacedUp]

What excuses?

Wlad was unprepared, unfocussed and overwhelmed by Sanders (and there was of course that massive head clash). This is evidenced on film.

Wlad almost died vs Brewster of a medical condition of which there is undisputable evidence.

Wlad gassed against Puritty and by looking at his record you can see than although Wlad had 20 odd fights, he'd only fought that many rounds roughly too (i.e. it was a GREEN against a VETERAN).

Where are the excuses?

An excuse implies there are other explanations, whereas these are the ONLY logical explanations given the evidence!

Contrarily it is YOU who take the end result and then try to FIND some reason for it other than the truth in order to discredit Wlad.

^^^ Fact!

Are you serious ?

You literally give a load of excuses and then ask: "Where are the excuses?"

I didn't try to find a reason. As you can see in my post I said it happens to everyone, they learn and move on. So did Wlad - By his own words.

[Machinist_X]

Do you have a source?

he said it on the first periscope video he did himself on his twitter when he was showing everyone how he, his cousin and his uncle are living in camp (caravans) the link doesnt seem to be up now, it says expired, take my word for it

if he does more periscope videos he can probably ask him and he might reply to that question again

i suggest anyone interested in this fight check out those periscope videos before they expire, his uncle peter fury also does them

he said footwork will win this fight from his own mouth, so hes going to be moving alot in his gameplan probably?

[1hourRun]

Fury 'Has Klitschko Ever Fought A Gypsy Warrior?'


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[yoz]

Froch and Smith give Klitschko no credit; typical Brits.