Canelo, the critics, the failure to realize:

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  • -PBP-
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    #41
    Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
    I said ANYONE WHO COULD EXPLOIT CANELO WITH MOVEMeNT, no one in particular. ANYONE who will exploit him and move and pot-shot him so you can call him a bum after.
    Just like I thought. You don't have a name. Carry on.


    People want Cotto next because he just got a big win over Sergio.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Bardock
      casual fan because I didn't watch a booty ass fight with no relevance to top fighters and a "paper title" like you said yourself? lol sure man. EVEN your boy admitted everyone uses boxrec but I guess PBP is some kind of walking boxing encyclopedia.
      Get real dude
      No. You tried to act like you knew who Andrade was because he called out Canelo. So instead of watching his fights and doing your research you BoxRec'd him in an attempt to expose him. And you failed.

      And now since you got your feelings hurt your bringing it up in every thread trying to save face. That's just something a casual fan would do.

      Go away troll. Stop following me.

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      • Beercules
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        #43
        Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
        They're encouraging that because of Canelos inability to cut off the ring. So they want to get him in with sluggers only now
        Exactly. Canelos only impressive with guys who don't move, I don't see any improvement in Canelo since Trout.

        Instead of silencing the critics, we are going to keep an eye on Canelo even closer now. Either he needs a new trainer or he really doesn't know how to cut off a ring.

        If Molina and Angulo can do it, no reason why Canelo shouldn't

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        • Bardock
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          #44
          Originally posted by PBP
          No. You tried to act like you knew who Andrade was because he called out Canelo. So instead of watching his fights and doing your research you BoxRec'd him in an attempt to expose him. And you failed.

          And now since you got your feelings hurt your bringing it up in every thread trying to save face. That's just something a casual fan would do.

          Go away troll. Stop following me.
          LOL we got miss cleo in the house now? This mothafcka is making shiet up along as he goes. I knew who "boo boo" was because he runs his mouth, this is the guy that thinks he has the "perfect style" for mayweather.

          The only thing you exposed is your mediocrity when it comes to debating.

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          • Aztekkas
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            #45
            Well clean victories or not he knocked off 2 of the most feared JMW within his last 4 fights. He sought after the fights his own promoter and team told him not to, that alone says a lot about a fighter. That means he really is trying to challenge himself and by doing so proving to the nay sayers that he can handle his own. Perhaps he isn't the most effective when fighting slick fighters but who else looks stupendous against them?

            Canelo doesn't smother or clench, can't cut the ring off efficiently and doesn't get into fire fights often unless he is confident he will come out on top. What he can do he does it well and that is counterpunching and combinations. That's why the saying remains true especially in Canelo's last few outings aside from Angulo, Styles make fights.

            I believe Canelo is similar to Juan Manuel Marquez in the sense that both look amazing against come forward fighters who brawl, yet both look subpar against moving boxers who aren't as offensively minded. The Marquez you saw in the Bradley fight didn't look as crisp and powerful as in the Alvarado schooling because of the style clashes. A counter punching boxer won't look good against a pure boxer, a pure boxer is troubled by a pressure fighter, a pressure fighter is often stopped by countering combination boxer, etc..

            Canelo is great at what he does and decent enough at what he doesn't, enough to screech by. He just needs to stick to his style and exploit it.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Bardock
              LOL we got miss cleo in the house now? This mothafcka is making shiet up along as he goes. I knew who "boo boo" was because he runs his mouth, this is the guy that thinks he has the "perfect style" for mayweather.

              The only thing you exposed is your mediocrity when it comes to debating.
              I've never debated you. I don't debate with trolls. I expose them.

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              • SeekDaGreat
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                #47
                Originally posted by PBP
                Just like I thought. You don't have a name. Carry on.


                People want Cotto next because he just got a big win over Sergio.
                You're trying to make me commit to a specific boxer so you can jump on me and tell me how the guy is not a mover and a pot-shotter. My point was that whoever would be a bad match up for Canelo and exploit him on some way, is what you guys want to see (not necessarily YOU) so you can get your rocks off (once again, not necessarily YOU.) From my very first post it was a general statement, so GTFOH with that shieetttt!

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                • Bardock
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  I've never debated you. I don't debate with trolls. I expose them.
                  "I don't make monkeys, I train them" lmao what are you like 50?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
                    You're trying to make me commit to a specific boxer so you can jump on me and tell me how the guy is not a mover and a pot-shotter. My point was that whoever would be a bad match up for Canelo and exploit him on some way, is what you guys want to see (not necessarily YOU) so you can get your rocks off (once again, not necessarily YOU.) From my very first post it was a general statement, so GTFOH with that shieetttt!
                    And your're wrong. People want to see the best fight the best. And Lara and Trout were he best fights to be made at 154. Nothing more. You made this thread with Andrade in mind but Andrade stands in the pocket and is a solid combination puncher.

                    And nobody wants to see Canelo vs. Andrade yet because Andrade hasn't beat anybody in the top 5 yet.

                    It's like you guys are *****ing because we want to see Canelo fight the best fighters instead of his division instead of beating up on irrelevant hopeless punching bags like James Kirkland.

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                    • MDPopescu
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
                      What's funny is most of you guys just want to see Canelo get exploited by guys who run around the ring and pot-shot him just so you can call Canelo a bum. So you can prove Canelo can't beat them at "their game," failing to realize they can't beat Canelo at "his game." It's a lose-lose situation and makes for a ****, stinker fight like Saturday night.

                      Instead you should be encouraging favorable match-up's against top comp like Cotto and Kirkland who only has one flash loss. And it favors Canelo's style and we can see a real fight.

                      But no, you're so worried about seeing him get "schooled" at something we already know, he's not a run and gun fighter. Get over it.
                      ... And you want to communicate what?
                      ... That Canelo was catching flies last Saturday?

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