Canelo, the critics, the failure to realize:

[Bardock]

And your're wrong. People want to see the best fight the best. And Lara and Trout were he best fights to be made at 154. Nothing more. You made this thread with Andrade in mind but Andrade stands in the pocket and is a solid combination puncher.

And nobody wants to see Canelo vs. Andrade yet because Andrade hasn't beat anybody in the top 5 yet.

It's like you guys are *****ing because we want to see Canelo fight the best fighters instead of his division instead of beating up on irrelevant hopeless punching bags like James Kirkland.

Now kirkland is a punching bag but before nobody wanted to fight him?

[Dinamita 03]

man, you so called boxing "fans" make me sick. one of the best fights of the years between two of the best boxers on the planet and all I keep hearing is how one guy is hyped, the other wasn't good enough or that it was all fixed, in the mean time degrading two of the best names in the 154lb division.

At the end of the day, we had a real back and forth affair, and the stats on who press row thought won is almost 50/50, it goes to show you how close this was. Canelo showed he could take a fight hard into the latter rounds whereas Lara showed that he had the skill to outbox Canelo but not the will to out fight him. This was a great struggle, one of the top 10 best fights this year...sadly this site is full of fighter fans rather than fight fans.

Great post. Although it could have been a better fight it was still entertaining to see the best two in the division go at it.

The post fight discussion is reminiscent of the Garcia/ Matthysse discussion were the actual fight wasn't discussed but rather "the eye incident" and how much of a hype Matthysse was because he lost.

[B-Bomber]

man, you so called boxing "fans" make me sick. one of the best fights of the years between two of the best boxers on the planet and all I keep hearing is how one guy is hyped, the other wasn't good enough or that it was all fixed, in the mean time degrading two of the best names in the 154lb division.

At the end of the day, we had a real back and forth affair, and the stats on who press row thought won is almost 50/50, it goes to show you how close this was. Canelo showed he could take a fight hard into the latter rounds whereas Lara showed that he had the skill to outbox Canelo but not the will to out fight him. This was a great struggle, one of the top 10 best fights this year...sadly this site is full of fighter fans rather than fight fans.

I suppose you mean on paper.

Canelo vs Lara was far from being one of the best fights of the year.
Neither of them threw enough or really tried to make it a fight.

Lara was pot shotting as if it was an olympic final, while Canelo was strolling around the ring as if feeding pigeons. Ah, yes, he threw a few flashy combo to the body when Lara was standing still for a moment.

This fight was nothing special, and you can call it as close as you like;
fact is that everytime Canelo has a case for winning 4-5 rounds one judge comes up with a 118-110 kind of scorecard. If he loses nearly every round then he gets a draw in said card.

Loving a sport doesn't equal ignore or condone this kind of bs.

[Dinamita 03]

Exactly. Canelos only impressive with guys who don't move, I don't see any improvement in Canelo since Trout.

Instead of silencing the critics, we are going to keep an eye on Canelo even closer now. Either he needs a new trainer or he really doesn't know how to cut off a ring.

If Molina and Angulo can do it, no reason why Canelo shouldn't

You fail to realize that each fighter has their strengths. Obviously being able to cut off the ring would be beneficial, but it's not the type of fighter he is. We all know he's a boxer at heart and it's ridiculous to suggest he should be able to do it because other fighters who use that style in all of their fights are more efficient.

You can't knock a guy for trying to be a boxer then turn around and say he
can't cut off the ring, that's just not his strength.

[SeekDaGreat]

And your're wrong. People want to see the best fight the best. And Lara and Trout were he best fights to be made at 154. Nothing more. You made this thread with Andrade in mind but Andrade stands in the pocket and is a solid combination puncher.

And nobody wants to see Canelo vs. Andrade yet because Andrade hasn't beat anybody in the top 5 yet.

It's like you guys are *****ing because we want to see Canelo fight the best fighters instead of his division instead of beating up on irrelevant hopeless punching bags like James Kirkland.

I can honestly tell you, Andrade was nothing more then a possible minute factor (if that) in making this thread. My point is people want to see him against less favorable stylistic match ups just so they can say "I told you he was a bum."

Why doesn't anybody beat Canelo at what Canelo does best ? Like fight.

[Beercules]

You fail to realize that each fighter has their strengths. Obviously being able to cut off the ring would be beneficial, but it's not the type of fighter he is. We all know he's a boxer at heart and it's ridiculous to suggest he should be able to do it because other fighters who use that style in all of their fights are more efficient.

You can't knock a guy for trying to be a boxer then turn around and say he
can't cut off the ring, that's just not his strength.

I seem to recall Chepo saying he learned from his loss, that he's improving, he's only 23 soon to be 24.

But where is the improvement? Cutting off the ring is an essential part of boxing. Canelo is a good combination puncher, good power and excellent hand speed but where is the improvement? He looked lost for 6 rounds last Saturday.

Nothing has changed since Trout, looks like he didn't pick up on anything from the Mayweather fight either.

[R_Walken]

Look styles make fights, how many times does that have to be repeated in order for fans to understand it?

Sugar Ray Leonard loses to Duran, beats Hearns. Hearns KO's Duran in brutal fashion, Hearns gets KO'd in brutal fashion by Hagler. Hagler loses to Leonard in a 12 round boxing clinic.

In Spanish we call it "No se acomodo" meaning "He didn't get comfortable". Sometimes a fighter makes you uncomfortable in their style and will make you look bad no matter what.

Canelo vs Lara was a bad style match up, just like Mayweather vs Canelo was. Cotto vs Canelo is a great style match up.

Canelo isn't overrated, or underrated, he is what he is. One of the best 154lbers in the world, and has proven he can beat guys like Trout, Lara, and Angulo who cannot be just taken lightly.

Let's not make Canelo a god, but at the same time let's give this 23 year old with 41 pro fights his props.

^^^^^^^^
Good post

[-PBP-]

I can honestly tell you, Andrade was nothing more then a possible minute factor (if that) in making this thread. My point is people want to see him against less favorable stylistic match ups just so they can say "I told you he was a bum."

Why doesn't anybody beat Canelo at what Canelo does best ? Like fight.

Nobody gives a damn about the styles. They give a damn about where he is ranked and who he has beat. That's all there is to it.

If the best fighter in the division wears running shoes and throws 10 punches a round than it is what it is. That's what we want. If a brawler/swarmer rises to the top, then that's who should get the shot.

I know it upsets you that boxing is a sport of many styles but I can't do anything about that. Boxing is still somewhat of a sport. You don't rank based on styles.

[SeekDaGreat]

I'll admit that Canelo isn't the best boxer/runner.

What I've been getting at is why won't someone beat him fighting? Because they CAN'T, RIGHT?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Look styles make fights, how many times does that have to be repeated in order for fans to understand it?

Sugar Ray Leonard loses to Duran, beats Hearns. Hearns KO's Duran in brutal fashion, Hearns gets KO'd in brutal fashion by Hagler. Hagler loses to Leonard in a 12 round boxing clinic.

In Spanish we call it "No se acomodo" meaning "He didn't get comfortable". Sometimes a fighter makes you uncomfortable in their style and will make you look bad no matter what.

Canelo vs Lara was a bad style match up, just like Mayweather vs Canelo was. Cotto vs Canelo is a great style match up.

Canelo isn't overrated, or underrated, he is what he is. One of the best 154lbers in the world, and has proven he can beat guys like Trout, Lara, and Angulo who cannot be just taken lightly.

Let'snot make Canelo a god , but at the same time let's give this 23 year old with 41 pro fights his props.

Nobody really does though. People seem to just hate on the dude.