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  • #21
    Very good analogy. Oscar thought he had it in the bag, so did Lara. Not a good look!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ßringer View Post
      I'm saying that his ego prevented the biggest rematch that could've been made during that era, not that he's afraid of rematches.

      Weight can always be ironed out. Hell, Oscar was fighting Bernard himself less than 3 years later. A catchweight could've easily been negotiated but by that point Oscar wasn't even at the table anymore. He walked away and stopped taking Tito seriously because he never respected anybody's fanbase or dignity aside from his own.

      Can you imagine Floyd offering Maidana 30% of the purse for their upcoming rematch?
      Oscar is the original cash cow in so many aspects he can afford to do that, you make it sound like that's a knock on him, enough people thought Oscar won that the rematch was more for Tito than Oscar, he had more to prove, Oscar knows he not only won but was the better fighter by far, and the bigger draw.

      An Floyd should give Maidana that much or more, how do you put a price on taking the p4p king to deep waters and giving him the hardest fight in years?

      The purses Floyds opponents get is pathetic in comparison to his own, regardless if he is the A-side or the p4p king, there shouldn't be such a disgusting disparity, although with oppoenents like Guerrero and Ortiz who didn't deserve to be there in the first place it's hard to see them get more than peanuts, but that's what's sad about the business side of the sport.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
        Well from what I recall Trinidad priced himself out in the rematch or Don King did, which ever you prefer. Also Arum and DLH were having problems as well. But the reality is if you thought you were going to get 50-50 with DLH the you weren't fighting DLH.
        I agree . What i'm understanding is if he thought he won against Trinidad in which i had de la hoya winning and i'm puerto Rican and cuban , then he agrees that lara won (who i thought won) reminds him of his loss , why not rematch them ? I'll pay for another PPV rematch and i'll buy in hd just like last night. This is business and right now it's cotto or lara rematch in which it should be cotto first and lara rematch second since nelo got the decision

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ßringer View Post
          I'm saying that his ego prevented the biggest rematch that could've been made during that era, not that he's afraid of rematches.

          Weight can always be ironed out. Hell, Oscar was fighting Bernard himself less than 3 years later. A catchweight could've easily been negotiated but by that point Oscar wasn't even at the table anymore. He walked away and stopped taking Tito seriously because he never respected anybody's fanbase or dignity aside from his own.

          Can you imagine Floyd offering Maidana 30% of the purse for their upcoming rematch?
          I think your overreacting...

          Weight cant be ironed out,, yes oscar fought hopkins at 160, and where was tito, basically in retirement, about to comeback vs mayorga at 160,,

          Even going into the hopkins fight, everyone knew oscar had no business at 160 after the sturm debacle...

          Floyd should give maidana about 10%,, what money does maidana bring to the table...
          Maidana hasnt ever been a ppv draw and it showed with the floyd ppv buyrates...

          I got no problem with maidana getting a floyd fight, but he isnt a draw..

          floyd
          manny
          cotto
          canelo
          wlad
          chavez jr

          are the only true ppv draws in the sport...

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          • #25
            Originally posted by ßringer View Post
            Can you imagine Floyd offering Maidana 30% of the purse for their upcoming rematch?
            Well yes I can. Maidana will get a fixed amount of money for that fight, won't he? Heck, he didn't even want Manny to receive a percentage of the pie offering him a fixed amount (albeit 30 something million which is pretty good) of money upfront.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              I think your overreacting...

              Weight cant be ironed out,, yes oscar fought hopkins at 160, and where was tito, basically in retirement, about to comeback vs mayorga at 160,,

              Even going into the hopkins fight, everyone knew oscar had no business at 160 after the sturm debacle...
              Oscar fought Bernard at a catchweight (I'm not sure if it's 157 or 158lb) and Hopkins took it.

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              • #27
                DeLa Hoya should be comparing the two fights. The fact is that in both these fights, the wrong man won.

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                • #28
                  It hasn't even been 24 hrs yet.

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                  • #29
                    Well yeah but me like many others thought Oscar beat Tito.

                    And the scorecards were fishy in that fight too

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                    • #30
                      The difference Oscar is you won 9 straight rounds against Tito than you lost the last 3 by running Lara probably only won 4 rounds by round 9 than lost the last 2 of 3

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