Comments Thread For: Canelo Edges Erislandy Lara With Split Nod To Win

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  • hitking
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    #261
    Originally posted by LAPete
    Lara was not boxing...he was constantly on the move but he did not engage enough to grant him the win. While it was a close fight Lara fans need to recognize the reality of the score and be clear on understanding why without injecting their TV scoring logic. There is a HUGE difference between point scoring from the couch at home and ringside at the venue.
    If using an effective jab, excellent lateral movement, and making your opponent miss so badly it was humorous isn't boxing, what is?

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    • BoxingLaw
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      #262
      Originally posted by hitking
      If using an effective jab, excellent lateral movement, and making your opponent miss so badly it was humorous isn't boxing, what is?
      apparently missing wildly, excuse me, hitting the air with devastating power is boxing and is what wins you fights. (gotta give Nelo credit)

      Not the above mentioned, effective jab, excellent lateral movement, making your opponent miss, AND…

      landing the straight left all night long.

      But hey, hopefully there is enough buzz that they'll do a rematch. If hell freezes over…Lara better go for the KO.

      I'm thinking about dropping out of law school and pursuing the illustrious position of boxing judge….I want to get rich too.

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      • budfr
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        #263
        Lara is a coward, running like a girl. He thought it was the Olympics. Canelo is the best and proved Mexican boxing is for men and cuban boxing for runners.

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        • hitking
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          #264
          Originally posted by BoxingLaw
          apparently missing wildly, excuse me, hitting the air with devastating power is boxing and is what wins you fights. (gotta give Nelo credit)

          Not the above mentioned, effective jab, excellent lateral movement, making your opponent miss, AND…

          landing the straight left all night long.

          But hey, hopefully there is enough buzz that they'll do a rematch. If hell freezes over…Lara better go for the KO.

          I'm thinking about dropping out of law school and pursuing the illustrious position of boxing judge….I want to get rich too.
          We may never see Lara on a major fight card again. His performance and subsequent robbery will allow anybody that's anybody to avoid him. Only way we see him on a major card again is if one of these pups like Andrade or Thurman ask for a fight with him because they can't get any of the bigger names to fight them and they're trying to make a statement.

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          • BoxingLaw
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            #265
            Originally posted by hitking
            We may never see Lara on a major fight card again. His performance and subsequent robbery will allow anybody that's anybody to avoid him. Only way we see him on a major card again is if one of these pups like Andrade or Thurman ask for a fight with him because they can't get any of the bigger names to fight them and they're trying to make a statement.
            You're probably right.

            I envision Lara fighting his way back to the big stage. He still has a title. However, I agree that he will have to fight some up and coming monsters. While Nelo gets to avoid them. Incredible. It's sad how corruption can disfigure such a beautiful sport.

            Let's see what Haymon advises.

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            • bojangles1987
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              #266
              Originally posted by hitking
              If using an effective jab, excellent lateral movement, and making your opponent miss so badly it was humorous isn't boxing, what is?
              The problem is that Lara only boxed up until he made Alvarez miss, where if he was boxing he would have followed up and made him pay. Instead he too often jumped across the ring and the pattern repeated.

              Lara did spend too much time running, which is why he ended up losing. He allowed the fight to be closer than it should have been. It's a habit of his.

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              • CubanGuyNYC
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                #267
                Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                LMAO at people saying Lara wasn't "running" he was boxing. Last I checked the difference between running and boxing is throwing punches, using your legs and not throwing punches is not boxing as simple as that. 117-111 is way too wide, but it's exactly what I expected which was Lara to lose the fight even if he won. Personally I think he lost anyway and I picked the wrong guy but it was close, Lara also gave me a lot more appreciation for Gamboa. Dood is the only Cuban who at least tried to adopt a pro-style instead of talk a ton of **** to be scared in there.
                Ever hear of how ATG Willie Pep once won a round without throwing a punch?

                While I agree there were instances Lara ran, he boxed the vast majority of the time. Landy made Canelo look out of his league many times, making him miss wildly. Lara's biggest mistake was that he didn't make Alvarez pay on too many occasions. And, as usual, Landy was too inactive. It hurt him last night.

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                • CubanGuyNYC
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                  #268
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  The problem is that Lara only boxed up until he made Alvarez miss, where if he was boxing he would have followed up and made him pay. Instead he too often jumped across the ring and the pattern repeated.

                  Lara did spend too much time running, which is why he ended up losing. He allowed the fight to be closer than it should have been. It's a habit of his.
                  True story.

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                  • hitking
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                    #269
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    The problem is that Lara only boxed up until he made Alvarez misf he was boxing he would have followed up and made him payInstead he too often jumped across the ring and the pattern repeated.

                    Lara did spend too much time running, which is why he ended up losing. He allowed the fight to be closer than it should have been. It's a habit of his.
                    All true. But, defense is one of the criteria for scoring a fight. Personally, its last on my particular pecking order. But last night, in most rounds, Nelo wasn't landing many clean punches, he was aggressive, but it wasn't effective. So to me, it came down to ring generalahip and defense. And it was Lara getting done what he wanted moreso than Nelo. And his defense was clearly better. And that's how a majority of the rounds played out. And in the first four rounds, Lara was landing the cleaner punches. And in the last four rounds, Lara landed the cleaner, clearer shots.

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                    • Dealer
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                      #270
                      Yes, Lara landed 10 more punches according to Showtime's punch stats. However, Lara landed 46 more jabs while Canelo landed 36 more power punches. This is something I noticed while watching the fight. We are not scoring an amateur bout. We're talking about professional prizefighting, where power punches are weighted much more than simple jabs. Lara simply did not do enough and took way too many body shots. When the two were in the clinch, Canelo free himself by ripping to Lara's body. 116-112 Canelo. Should have been a UD.

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