Comments Thread For: Holyfield: Mayweather Doesn't Believe He'll Beat Pacquiao

[Deevel916]

Floyd could have been made this fight if he wanted to indeed.. But truth is Pac and Arum have used Floyd for YEARS to hype Manny up and if the fight hinges on Pac getting half of anything, I would tell them to kick rocks too!! Floyd had to bow down and give everything Oscar wanted to make the fight and his biggest paycheck and the same goes for Pac..Sergio would have never fought Cotto without giving in to all of Cotto's demands and too act like that's not the cycle of boxing is just hatred for Floyd...

Pac is still a bigger star and draw today than Floyd was at the time he faced and had to bow to Oscars demands. If you look at thier total ppv #'s, Floyd only leads Pac by about 500k buys which can all change with 1 fight. You cant compare Pac's status to that of Martinez who was never really a draw or Floyd who wasnt much of a draw himself prior to facing Oscar.

[PacmanP4PLegend]

Although they're both counterpunchers, Floyd and JMM have very different fighting styles. JMM has had success with Pac because JMM isnt afraid to step in the line of fire in order to land something. Floyd on the other hand fights extremely cautious. Just look at thier 4 fights. You can make an argument for who won the first 3 and we all know who won the 4th, but one thing that cant be disputed is that even in thier 4 fights JMM took more damage than Pac did. Knocked down 5 times in 4 fights. Suffered a broken nose twice, etc. Floyd would never commit to his offense vs Pac the way JMM did.

I can see your point, thumbs up!

[Cinci Champ]

Given all the BS obstacles Mayweather's making Manny go through, I have no reason to believe Holyfield isn't right to say this. I still think Floyd would win if they ever do fight.

all those obstacles since the the first negotiations are nothing but pr the only obstacle manny ever had was figuring out how to pass the drug test and he knew he couldnt everyone ignores the fact that mayweather is still the only one who has his signature on the 50 50 contract one in which all demands he had to follow himself until you guys admit this its nothing but you looking for excuses for that

[MrP4P]

That's not my take. I believe it comes down to the simplest things. Both Mayweather and Pac have played the Prima Donna roles in talks and negotiations over the years and between their egos and the egos of their management/promoters, a fallout was the result. You can easily tell which fans aren't biased because they don't railroad the blame to just one side. Anyone who thinks only one guy is to blame, is flat out biased.

I agree. I think both sides are to blame. You always hear "WHY DOESNT MAYWEATHER MAKE THE FIGHT" but why dont we ask "WHY DOESNT PACQUIAO MAKE THE FIGHT?" or people will blame Richard, Al Haymon, Elerbe, but why is it crazy not think Arum has blocked the fight? I truly think its the egos of both fighters and neither wants to second fiddle to the other because they are stars in their own right, Mayweather had excuses that didnt make sense but so has Pacquiao.. Hes stated hes scared of needles and drawing blood but had tattoos all over his body and evnetually agreed to testing when he thought JMM was juicing. Mayweathers father has said Manny is all wrong for Floyd, and then said Floyd would whip Manny, but I remember roach joking saying hes never even heard of steroids before or fighters using him, but forgets his fighter was caught (Toney) on PEDS with his fight with ruiz.. almost everything about this rivarly goes both ways but the bias is def real.

[Cinci Champ]

Pac is still a bigger star and draw today than Floyd was at the time he faced and had to bow to Oscars demands. If you look at thier total ppv #'s, Floyd only leads Pac by about 500k buys which can all change with 1 fight. You cant compare Pac's status to that of Martinez who was never really a draw or Floyd who wasnt much of a draw himself prior to facing Oscar.

if you really believe manny is as big a draw as mayweather then your lying to yourself hes not even close these days

[John Locke]

Everyone knows Floyd is scared of losing to Pac. Former pros, trainers, real boxing fans etc. Everyone.

Even at this stage where I think Floyd would be the slight* favourite, he won't take the risk. 5 years ago Pac would've beaten Floyd for sure, now I think it's 55/45 in favour of Floyd, but he wants to wait longer, the longer they wait, the more the tide turns in Floyd's favour. He's waiting until Pac is on a crutches.

[MrP4P]

both guys are at fault, but we're talking about today, right now, at this moment, pac has came out and said he's agreed to all of floyd's demand, ost, lesser purse. and what do we get from floyd? *crickets chirping*

Again both ways.. Mayweather offered Manny 40mil, Manny confirmed this, whether you believe it or not Pacquiao could have called Mayweathers bluff but he didnt... after Marquez knocked him out he decided he would fight for free, it goes both ways.. but you wont ever hear about Pacquiao turning it down, you just hear Mayweather bashing.

[Deevel916]

if you really believe manny is as big a draw as mayweather then your lying to yourself hes not even close these days

I can tell reading isnt one of your strong suits.. Now try reading it again slooowly.

[dmlarge]

Dude, that's all old sh.it....what about TODAY, PRESENT TIME. All that for million he said she said sh.it from 4-5 years ago is for the birds, what's holding up the fight TODAY? !?

Same old things....Arum wants to control the fight. Arum like Pacquiao gotta give in to the demands or no fight....simple as that.

[Evol]

if you really believe manny is as big a draw as mayweather then your lying to yourself hes not even close these days

floyd's last fight and pac's last fight wasnt off by that much so what are u talking about??