Comments Thread For: Holyfield: Mayweather Doesn't Believe He'll Beat Pacquiao

[John Locke]

Although they're both counterpunchers, Floyd and JMM have very different fighting styles. JMM has had success with Pac because JMM isnt afraid to step in the line of fire in order to land something. Floyd on the other hand fights extremely cautious. Just look at thier 4 fights. You can make an argument for who won the first 3 and we all know who won the 4th, but one thing that cant be disputed is that even in thier 4 fights JMM took more damage than Pac did. Knocked down 5 times in 4 fights. Suffered a broken nose twice, etc. Floyd would never commit to his offense vs Pac the way JMM did.

Good post.

Floyd and Marquez are completely different types of counter punchers, Marquez is an aggressive counter puncher, Floyd is not. Marquez counters in combinations, he throws WITH Pacquiao, FLoyd would never do that. He'd counter with single shots and you can't beat Pac like that.

A prime Pac would've just been too busy, too fast, too strong for Floyd to handle. You can't win rounds against Pac by throwing a couple of jabs to the gut.

[Deevel916]

I agree. I think both sides are to blame. You always hear "WHY DOESNT MAYWEATHER MAKE THE FIGHT" but why dont we ask "WHY DOESNT PACQUIAO MAKE THE FIGHT?" or people will blame Richard, Al Haymon, Elerbe, but why is it crazy not think Arum has blocked the fight? I truly think its the egos of both fighters and neither wants to second fiddle to the other because they are stars in their own right, Mayweather had excuses that didnt make sense but so has Pacquiao.. Hes stated hes scared of needles and drawing blood but had tattoos all over his body and evnetually agreed to testing when he thought JMM was juicing. Mayweathers father has said Manny is all wrong for Floyd, and then said Floyd would whip Manny, but I remember roach joking saying hes never even heard of steroids before or fighters using him, but forgets his fighter was caught (Toney) on PEDS with his fight with ruiz.. almost everything about this rivarly goes both ways but the bias is def real.

I dont see Pac turning the fight down as long as Arum is able to make a deal with Floyd. Nor have I ever heard Pac himself say that he doesnt want to fight Floyd. We have on the other hand heard Floyd state numerous times, numerous reasons why he doesnt want to fight Pac. I put the blame on Arum and Floyd. Pac will fight king kong if Arum could make a deal.

[Fr3$h]

Has a single pro ever backed Mayweather in this fight? It seems like they all back Pacquaio

I know Holyfield, he picked up the phone and called you saying Manny giving him all kinds of nightmares.

You know how boxing is its a pretty small group of characters so if you duck someone at that level of the sport I'm sure word gets around

[MrP4P]

Pac is still a bigger star and draw today than Floyd was at the time he faced and had to bow to Oscars demands. If you look at thier total ppv #'s, Floyd only leads Pac by about 500k buys which can all change with 1 fight. You cant compare Pac's status to that of Martinez who was never really a draw or Floyd who wasnt much of a draw himself prior to facing Oscar.

Ok you have to put all bias opinions to the side, at no point was Pacquiao a bigger draw than Mayweather, even at Pacquiaos height he always fell short to Mayweather. They BOTH made their names off fighting ODH, both of them.. Pacquiao wasnt organic , they both fought the cash cow to become PPV stars. How was Pacquiao a PPV draw before osca

[dmlarge]

pac has said he is willing to take less and do the vada testing but now it's the promoter excuse. I think there's a pattern here.

Pac needs to pick up the phone a call the man. Last i remember thats what mayweather did.

[Evol]

Again both ways.. Mayweather offered Manny 40mil, Manny confirmed this, whether you believe it or not Pacquiao could have called Mayweathers bluff but he didnt... after Marquez knocked him out he decided he would fight for free, it goes both ways.. but you wont ever hear about Pacquiao turning it down, you just hear Mayweather bashing.

he did call floyd's bluff.. by going on espn and saying he has agreed to everything. when floyd called and offer manny the $40 flat fee, pac hasnt agreed to all of floyd's terms yet such as ost with no cut off. and the fighting for free thing is more about not agreeing on the purse so lets just fight for free this way theres no issues. but that means floyd has to agreed he'll fight for free. manny is not saying manny will fight for free and floyd can keep all the money. manny is saying that if they cant agreed to terms on the money split then both of them will fight for free. and again i repeat BOTH guys are at fault.

[The Tase]

everybody believes floyd beats paquiao. hell im a pacquiao fan and a floyd hater and ive been on record for the past 2-3 years that floyd beats pacquiao.

everybody is super confident floyd beats pacquiao rather easily....

except floyd.

holyfield is on point here.

[Deevel916]

Ok you have to put all bias opinions to the side, at no point was Pacquiao a bigger draw than Mayweather, even at Pacquiaos height he always fell short to Mayweather. They BOTH made their names off fighting ODH, both of them.. Pacquiao wasnt organic , they both fought the cash cow to become PPV stars. How was Pacquiao a PPV draw before osca

Ok. Another poster with poor reading skills.

I'll say it again in simpler terms. The poster who I was replying to stated that Pac needs to bow to all of Floyd's demands the way Floyd had to do when he faced Oscar.

What I said was.....TODAY Pac is a bigger star than Floyd WAS when he faced Oscar. Therefore Pac isnt in a position TODAY where he needs to bow down to whatever scraps Floyd wants to throw at him. At the end of the day he's still making a $20mil guarantee per fight plus ppv revenue.

[dmlarge]

so floyd is not original then? why follow what someone else has done before? be ur own self.

Look it worked for DLH for years. Why the hell would he change the money maker plan that was done first by DLH and making him 10 of millions. He's being his own man, taking the boxing game to new hieghts

[Evol]

Has a single pro ever backed Mayweather in this fight? It seems like they all back Pacquaio



You know how boxing is its a pretty small group of characters so if you duck someone at that level of the sport I'm sure word gets around

actually a lot of pro boxers current and pass all believe floyd would beat manny! but their not blame to see that its floyd who is stalling. they all believe floyd would beat manny but floyd needs to believe it himself first.