On the real - Screw Erislandy Lara!

[dan_cov]

This is precisely the point TS is making. Lara has been given the opportunity to face the best in his division time and time again on major network tv. Yet he complains he was fed to the wolves, which is it? You want to face the best or not? I mean he has little to no fans zero leverage yet gets good fights even when he underperformed and somehow has a chip on his shoulder with his promoter.

Oh right, fair but we don't know what goes on behind the scenes and maybe he has been treated pretty badly. I know he doesn't get the credit he deserves.

They also gave Angulo every advantage going from the tiny ring to the ridiculous weight clause. He had a lot against him that night. The judging in the Williams fight.
He has not had it easy.

[Dinamita 03]

Are you aware of some of the political **** that goes on behind the scenes with some fighters? Maybe that whole Angulo situation was legit.

How is that relevant to him getting fights? And what are these political claims you speak of ? Provide examples if you don't mind.

[Loque-san]

How exactly was he on his way to an L against Angulo?

Lara was ahead 85-84 on two scorecards and one judge had it 86-83 Angulo. He was having a huge round 10 which means after ten rounds he would have increased his lead. The scores would have been 95-93 twice for Lara and 95-93 Angulo. In the tenth round Lara appeared the fresher of the two and was still light on his feet, whereas Angulo looked tired and took a beating. He needed to win the last two rounds to get... a majority draw. Lara had all the momentum. I can't wait for you explanations TS.

[Bardock]

Alright so what are we betting again? 2 tril? 10 tril? 100 tril? I forgot.

lets do 100T. please confirm

[JmH Reborn]

Narrowly? He beat the living **** out of Williams and on his way to an L against Angulo? He was ahead and boxing his ears off throughout. Angulo had very little success but the two knockdowns.

i referenced my view above - I thought the Williams fight was close- Lara deserved to win, but it wasn't that wide. And yeah - he was in a very close battle w/ Angulo - who knows how that fight would have turned out if Angulo didn't have that ghastly swelling.

Unlike most pure boxers Lara actually gets knockouts and scores knockdowns. How can people say he is boring? The only time he was boring was against Vanes and Molina - two guys nobody has ever looked good against.

So in the 7 fights he's had in the upper tier of boxing, 29% of them were unwatchable, 29% of them were against cans. 29% of them were shot/past-prime - and the last one was against a good/prime fighter - in which he won impressively and was rewarded with a Canelo fight.

Lara is vastly overrated and has only ever dropped duds as opposed to Canelo who dropped a real murderers row of opponents in Matthew Hatton, Cotto's little brother, shot Cintron, Ryan Rhodes etc

Fortunately for Canelo - the dude just has other things that make him a marketable attraction. Life isn't fair my dude. Canelo was given the golden ticket from the moment he showed up. He's got a strong built in fan-base, has a pleasing boxer/puncher style - he's got a look made for TV. So his ride to stardom was admittingly shorter than Lara's. The point is - Lara had to work hard to separate himself out from the pack - and he never did, up until the Trout fight. which he was properly rewarded.

Its weird people knock his resume - The man has about 20 fights and has already fought Vanes, Williams, Angulo, Trout, Molina and soon to be Canelo. Who else is fighting that comp in so few pro fights?
Lara is everything that is right with boxing and one of the few who have never cherrypicked or ducked anybody. Would it hurt to give the guy just a little respect?

I'd like to give the guy respect if he would just acknowledge the obvious and do what he has to to gain the respect he deserves. He's whining and putting down the people who've invested millions of dollars into him - perhaps he should give respect to those who've invested in him.

Either way - I think his 15 minutes are about up in 3 weeks = hopefully he bounces back

[UTEP]

lets do 100T. please confirm

Done. 100 Tril

[JmH Reborn]

How exactly was he on his way to an L against Angulo?

Lara was ahead 85-84 on two scorecards and one judge had it 86-83 Angulo. He was having a huge round 10 which means after ten rounds he would have increased his lead. The scores would have been 95-93 twice for Lara and 95-93 Angulo. In the tenth round Lara appeared the fresher of the two and was still light on his feet, whereas Angulo looked tired and took a beating. He needed to win the last two rounds to get... a majority draw. Lara had all the momentum. I can't wait for you explanations TS.

I already stated my case awhile ago

He had a big round - but there was still 11 and 12. Had that eye not transformed - i think Angulo would have pulled it out. Either way - that was an Angulo who was/is washed up/past-prime who was involved in other wars and lets be honest - isn't very good and he gave Lara all he could handle. Angulo should have been made to look like an amateur, but he wasn't. Lara again was in full "fight down to the level of his opponent" mode and it almost cost him

[Dinamita 03]

Oh right, fair but we don't know what goes on behind the scenes and maybe he has been treated pretty badly. I know he doesn't get the credit he deserves.

They also gave Angulo every advantage going from the tiny ring to the ridiculous weight clause. He had a lot against him that night. The judging in the Williams fight.
He has not had it easy.

Behind the scenes could play a factor but like you mentioned we have no idea so it's only speculation. I'm merely going on what he said about not getting the fights and being fed to the wolves.

I've never seen Williams/Lara so I'll take your word he received an unfavorable decision. Angulo/Lara was an undercard fight I find it absurd GB went out of their way to stack all the odds against Lara in a card he didn't headline.

[Bardock]

Behind the scenes could play a factor but like you mentioned we have no idea so it's only speculation. I'm merely going on what he said about not getting the fights and being fed to the wolves.

I've never seen Williams/Lara so I'll take your word he received an unfavorable decision. Angulo/Lara was an undercard fight I find it absurd GB went out of their way to stack all the odds against Lara in a card he didn't headline.

and vs a fighter who was taylor made for him and many if not most people thought it would be easy work for him but it turned out that was angulo's best performance of his career lol with the exception of the 1st round with kirkland.

[dan_cov]

I don't feel that was a close fight, he more or less dominated Williams in my eyes and the judging was so bad that the judges involved are still suspended to this day.

Rewarded with a Canelo fight? Lara has earned his spot and deserves to be rewarded. How can anybody be against the #1 and #2 fighter in the division going at it? Lara took on all comers, he deserves this shot.
Canelo has been in his fair share of stinkers himself; Rhodes, Hatton, Mosley etc etc it takes two to make a great fight.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, personally I haven't even heard him moan but I will assume if he has then he feels unfairly treated upto now.
He wasn't made into a superstar because of his looks or where he comes from like a Canelo - A forced star. He has had to earn everything the hard way. The guy just wants a break, he was even calling out GGG, now he has that break, hopefully he makes the most of it which I believe he will.