Why the hate for haymon?

[Rocky Rode]

Because if he wasn't linked with Mayweather nobody would even know him nor would you be hearing his name as much as you do now. His connection with Mayweather is the only reason why most people know this guy.

You think Mayweather is more important than he really is

[R_Walken]

This is bull****. People have been hating Haymon since him and Ross Greenburg were giving us crap fights on HBO. Now him and Stephen Espinoza are giving us crap fights on Showtime.

Yeah because HBO puts on nothing but elite match ups now, GGG vs Stevens/ Macklin. Kovalev vs Caparello/Agnew . Ruslan vs Algeri, Andrade vs Rose this new philosophy of HBO of putting on great match up is working wonders The best fighting the best no doubt.

People stating because of The Berto/ Soto fight are literally ******ed.
Yeah the judges we're probably favoring Berto like every single A side in the history of boxing. Berto made it a competitive fight with 1 arm and would have blown Soto out if healthy. And it's not like Sofo wasn't rewarded with the win.he Got a Thurman fight and is getting a Alexander fight both Haymon fighters.
It's better then at TR were someone like Rigo wins upsets the apple cart and is rewarded with nothing but negative press and Sh.!tty worth nothing fights.


And for Stevenson he made a business decision he fought the same fight he was supposed to on HBO and he'll most likely face B-hop a ATG/ living legend, a fight that will probably make more $ and get 4/5 belts in the division. As opposed to a fighter who has beat absolutly nobody and at this point is all hype. Why did Kovalev settle for Caparello instead of a higher quality opponent but he doesn't get criticized.

[sicko]

His connection with Mayweather is the only reason why you defend him. Mayweather can do no wrong.

NO not at all, read my other post idiot I am not some trolling kid on this forum I am always honest and fair, if Mayweather is ***ing up and I call him out as well. In fact just posted today about how I think both sides of the Mayweather and Pacquiao camp is Full of It when it comes to trying to make that fight happen.

I defend Haymon because it seems like he is actually doing a good job from keeping what happened to Iron Mike Tyson and Don King from happening to his fighters. A manager that is not in cahoots with some dirty crooked promoter trying to rob fighters BLIND behind their backs. I wouldn't want my manager to be buddy buddy with a Promoter ANYWAY because that is NOT HIS JOB!

[al-Xander]

What do you expect when fighters fight only like twice a year? That should be put on the fighters, not on Haymon.

Yeah, one would have thought he'll make up for lost time. Instead, he'd rather pit them with nobodies. The way the rate it's going it will take 50 years to see these guys fight everyone in the group. It may even be never. They also have to recycle Malignaggi and Judah.

[sicko]

You think Mayweather is more important than he really is

No, I just realize how ****** some of today's boxing fans are, everybody just picky sides and acting like groupies and using absolutely NO LOGIC and COMMONSENSE!

[BHopp]

Yeah, one would have thought he'll make up for lost time. Instead, he'd rather pit them with nobodies. The way the rate it's going it will take 50 years to see these guys fight everyone in the group. It may even be never. They also have to recycle Malignaggi and Judah.

What about Lara and Canelo? Probably a top 3 important fight of the year right there and guess who is one of the managers for that one? Porter and Brook is far from a tune up fight as well.

Thurman is also getting ducked by a lot of guys, again, Haymon can't force these fighters to fight that guy.

[maguirre]

They were about to rob Karass in that fight. Unfortunately, Haymon forgot to bribe the ref.

That's one of the most egregious moments in boxing. Berto was complaining as if he got robbed of the fight by the ref. Then later after the winner announcement we found out that the 2 judges had Berto winning in the fight. Meaning, Karass would have been robbed had it not for the stoppage.

[Rocky Rode]

Yeah because HBO puts on nothing but elite match ups now, GGG vs Stevens/ Macklin. Kovalev vs Caparello/Agnew . Ruslan vs Algeri, Andrade vs Rose this new philosophy of HBO of putting on great match up is working wonders The best fighting the best no doubt.

People stating because of The Berto/ Soto fight are literally ******ed.
Yeah the judges we're probably favoring Berto like every single A side in the history of boxing. Berto made it a competitive fight with 1 arm and would have blown Soto out if healthy. And it's not like Sofo wasn't rewarded with the win.he Got a Thurman fight and is getting a Alexander fight both Haymon fighters.
It's better then at TR were someone like Rigo wins upsets the apple cart and is rewarded with nothing but negative press and Sh.!tty worth nothing fights.


And for Stevenson he made a business decision he fought the same fight he was supposed to on HBO and he'll most likely face B-hop a ATG/ living legend, a fight that will probably make more $ and get 4/5 belts in the division. As opposed to a fighter who has beat absolutly nobody and at this point is all hype. Why did Kovalev settle for Caparello instead of a higher quality opponent but he doesn't get criticized.

Those fighters get paid way less and take up less budget for HBO though. Plus they're foreign fighters who are trying to build up a name in the USA. It's not the same thing as these established fighters who get paid 7 figures per fight and only fight twice a year to take tune ups no one wants to see. Bad comparison

And Stevenson made a business decision... So what? It still sucks for boxing fans and we have every right to complain about it. Kovalev-Stevenson is a way better fight than Hopkins-Stevenson.

[Rocky Rode]

No, I just realize how ****** some of today's boxing fans are, everybody just picky sides and acting like groupies and using absolutely NO LOGIC and COMMONSENSE!

You're the one not using any logic here. You're unnecessarily bringing Mayweather into this for no reason.

You have Kathy Duva filing a law suit saying Haymon is acting as promoter and manager. Did that happen because he managed Mayweather? No. It happened because Stevenson signed with Haymon.

Max Kellerman put Al Haymon fighters on blast a couple years ago. Was that because he managed Mayweather too? No, it was because he was getting his fighter's these TV dates that no one cared about. Nothing to do with Mayweather

[R_Walken]

Those fighters get paid way less and take up less budget for HBO though. Plus they're foreign fighters who are trying to build up a name in the USA. It's not the same thing as these established fighters who get paid 7 figures per fight and only fight twice a year to take tune ups no one wants to see. Bad comparison

And Stevenson made a business decision... So what? It still sucks for boxing fans and we have every right to complain about it. Kovalev-Stevenson is a way better fight than Hopkins-Stevenson.

Thats what HBO does to build fighters it put them in with lower class opponents for them to beat down and look good. They did it to Berto/Broner/GGG/Kolalev
But you don't like Haymon because he gets his fighters more $. Unless you work for HBO why should it matter who gets what .if anything GGG / Kovalev should get better managers.

I wouldn't mind watching the Stevenson / Kovalev fight but right now Bernard/ Showtime bring more to the table with belts/ $/ Legacy then Kovalev does.

Sergei hasn't done anything except beat bums and have earth shattering power. If they both keep winning then I don't see why this fight wouldn't get made. If there's enough hype and $ involved it'll probably get made. But in the meantime Sergei should take on legit names not just feast on C class fighters