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  • killakali
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    #31
    Originally posted by Cinci Champ
    I dont understand the hate for haymon i honestly dont. The way he gets blamed for this cold war is honestly ridiculous hes a manager. just take this weekends fight card for example if that was anyone else it would be split into 2 cards on 2 different nights. Arum dont use that many fighters on a ppv lol I just dont get it the reason promoters dont do business with haymon is he dont let them **** over his fighters and dont let them sign these extensions he wants what they are worth without extensions tied in thats the real reason arum wont work with him. Promoters number 1 trick is forcing fighters into extensions obviously managers shouldn not let that happen. Why this dont fall on the promoters dont make sense to me. I think what it comes down to is peoples odd amount of hate for mayweather. When you see someone like arum being defended when he is known to screw fighters then see someone like haymon who helps the fighters gets bashed. These promoters dont want to share they want all the money for themselves just look at what manny made his last fight how is that even possible after all the money he made top rank. I honestly dont get it if people hate him for the cold war or fights not happening is just ridiculous. The only reason arum and other promoters wont do business with him is he dont let his fighters get screwed say what you will but in my opinion this is all ass backwards and until people realize that nothing is really going to change.
    Is Guerrero KamegAi a good fight? How about trout vs Daniel Dawson? Wilder vs the white lion? Thurman vs Diaz? The list goes on and on. When his fighters don't fight other haymon fighters he wastes good slots on his fighters in mismatches. That's the complaint. He also blocks fights like Stevenson Kovalev.

    Stevenson fanfara and Berto soto Karass were made because they were supposed to be blowouts too just soto Karass upset the apple cart and fanfara nearly did too
    Last edited by killakali; 06-17-2014, 02:10 PM. Reason: Misspell

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      #32
      Originally posted by killakali
      Is Guerrero KamegAi a good fight? How about trout vs Daniel Dawson? Wilder vs the white lion? Thurman vs Diaz? The list goes on and on. When his fighters don't fight other haymon fighters he wastes good slots on his fighters in mismatches. That's the complaint. He also blocks fights like Stevenson Kovalev.

      Stevenson fanfara and Berto soto Karass were made because they were supposed to be blowouts too just soto Karass upset the apple cart and fanfara nearly did too
      and they get paid millions of dollars to fight these tune ups, which makes them less hungry because why take on tough fights when you can get millions fighting mismatches?

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        #33
        Originally posted by killakali
        Is Guerrero KamegAi a good fight? How about trout vs Daniel Dawson? Wilder vs the white lion? Thurman vs Diaz? The list goes on and on. When his fighters don't fight other haymon fighters he wastes good slots on his fighters in mismatches. That's the complaint. He also blocks fights like Stevenson Kovalev.

        Stevenson fanfara and Berto soto Karass were made because they were supposed to be blowouts too just soto Karass upset the apple cart and fanfara nearly did too
        The biggest one for me was the Berto/Karass saga regarding the power of Haymon's influence. Berto knew he was supposed to win in that fight as long as it went all the way to 12 rounds with the judges' collusion. You all saw Berto complaining and crying why the ref stopped the fight in the last remaining seconds of the 12th round, even though he knew he lost the fight even without the stoppage. I wonder if there were some short clips out there.
        Last edited by al-Xander; 06-17-2014, 04:03 PM.

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        • killakali
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          #34
          That's true. Berto had two scorecards locked up. It was unbelievable. Remember the Broner ponce scorecard and Danny Garcia Herrera scorecards for more examples

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            #35
            Originally posted by killakali
            That's true. Berto had two scorecards locked up. It was unbelievable. Remember the Broner ponce scorecard and Danny Garcia Herrera scorecards for more examples
            They were about to rob Karass in that fight. Unfortunately, Haymon forgot to bribe the ref.

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              #36
              Haymon is a weasel. Nothing more nothing less. The boxing world would be better off without him.

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              • Deevel916
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                #37
                I think this thread backfired on the OP.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JoeMan
                  Look at the 140-147 picture

                  Broner, Guerrero, Berto, Thurman, Khan, Peterson, Maidana, Matthysse, Garcia, Lopez, Ortiz, Porter, Alexander...
                  Are you being serious? A lot of these guys have fought eachother already lol wtf?

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                  • Outwest Exp 355
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                    #39
                    He is black and very successful. That in itself is probable cause for a full scale investigation into his business practices.

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                    • al-Xander
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BHopp
                      Are you being serious? A lot of these guys have fought eachother already lol wtf?
                      Are you people fans of the sport, or just Haymon apologists? Would you not have preferred to see Broner vs Matthysse or Broner vs Khan in their last fights. Or Khan vs any of the names he hasn't fought in the list? Provo lost to Bradley, he went on to fight Alvarado, who was a title holder at that time. Alvarado lost to Provo, he went on to fight the veteran Marquez for his next fight... What tf are these Haymon fighters? Babies? They have to be protected from each other?

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