Why the hate for haymon?

[arraamis]

simply i don't like haymon because it's him and as well as schaefer who are continuing the cold war. that's common knowledge.

No! That is a derived opinion from others ... Where is the reference data demonstrating that Haymon is deliberately fostering a so-called cold-war?

you know this. i don't have time to give you all references but if you have time then you can easily look this up yourself. but i think you choose not to. why?

and again it's very rude to call someone a sewer rate no matter their opinion. everyone has different opinions this is life. you should apologize for this.

Just what I thought .... All speculation with no valid reason. In essence, none of you guys claims can stand independently without the support of the crowd, you have to join the popular, somewhat ******ed crowd for a feeling of being a part of something. And in reality, the hate for Haymon is all about who he represents and not about who he is as a person or as a businessman.

Hating on someone without a justifiable cause is disgusting to the point of vomiting Hence, the term, SEWER-**** and it fits some of the morons on this forum perfectly!

I don't play those games in real life or online -- I can give a fuck who doesn't like me online and I can't care less about who likes what I write. This allow me the freedom to be real to myself and my beliefs without consequence!!!

Try it!!!!

Haymon is not a freakin angel, but at the same time he's not the devil either. And all I have to go on is from the Professional Boxer's themselves .... And their opinions are tenfold more valuable than some freakin rat spewing out nonsense on a forum.

[vman075]

Some of these guys are sewer-**** plain & simple, because they feed on unverified, speculative rumor and then condemn without a shed of evidence.

BTW ... I'll take you up on the challenge!

Can you detail why? you don't like Haymon.

And if you would, provide some reference that can be read or inspected and is void of speculative rumor, or a personal perspective derived and or gained from others opinion.

He doesn't put his guys against anyone good unless they are fighting another one of his guys and handcuffs the B-side guys into getting the fight with his guy by signing with him as well. Ill explain:
Garcia-Matthysse fought eachother. Great fight, both Haymon guys
Compare that to Garcia's next fight. I know it ended up good but it was made to be a showcase for the Haymon fighter.
Matthysse's next fight was against Molina. Again, fun fight but it was a fight made for Lucas to win. Also he then made Molina sign with him to get the fight, so now that's another guy he will use the same strategy with and he has done this with many fights.

Also he is a big part of the network dispute. All of his guys are on Showtime, so making fights with other outside big names very difficult. There has always been some guys that were tied to a network but this is the only time in history where you can look at just about any fighter and they fight either on showtime or hbo. He ruins good fights like Stevenson-Kovalev by doing this.

His fighters get network dates no matter who they fight. Yes, this can be blamed on the networks too, but to stop it would involve both network to agree to stop this. He left hbo to go to a network that will comply with him. Why? Bc Showtime wants to broadcast Floyd's fights and the other big stars that he manages. So they give into all his demands

I get that fighters want to be paid and he somehow gets them paid, this is helping him get more and more fighters to go to him to get those big paydays. But the more people we see with him, the more of the issues I just outlined.

Btw it's not just him, many other managers do some of the stuff he does. It's just that he has the biggest and best stable of guys so he is able to get away with more so it is worse for the sport than if a small time manager tries to do it. Is he a great buisnessman? Absolutely. Is he good to his fighters? Absolutely. Is he good for the fans? Absolutely not

[thuggery]

Happens to be one of the head frontrunners keeping the cold war alive, yet they defend him with their lives like he's a father figure or something. Gee I wonder why.

[Public_Enemy]

Look at the 140-147 picture

Broner, Guerrero, Berto, Thurman, Khan, Peterson, Maidana, Matthysse, Garcia, Lopez, Ortiz, Porter, Alexander...

These guys will never run out of fights for the next 3-5 years. But Haymon prefers to pit them outside of this group.

Take it from Thurman, doe. He claims that he's being ducked by everybody. Broner, Khan, Matthysse, these guys' last fights didn't come from this group. Guerrero is back fighting a nobody. Not Thurman, not Broner, need I continue? What over protectionism my ass.

I'm pretty much indifferent when it comes to Haymon. I don't praise him but I also don't hate him at all. Like most of the head figures in boxing, he's done some good and some bad. But I don't completely agree with the above post.

Guerrero has been out of boxing for over a year and has been through a promotional dispute. Plus, he just signed with Haymon.

Porter just fought Alexander and then Paulie. The next fight against Brook is a mandatory.

Khan hadn't fought for a year trying to land a Mayweather fight. He also just signed with Haymon.

Broner fought Maidana before fight Molina and he took a lot of damage against Maidana.

Matthysse signed with Haymon and got the Garcia fight. We all wanted that fight. He just fought John Molina who is a tough customer.

Peterson just signed with Haymon.

Maidana fought Broner and Floyd after signing to Haymon.

[Beercules]

Happens to be one of the head frontrunners keeping the cold war alive, yet they defend him with their lives like he's a father figure or something. Gee I wonder why.

He a bidniss man doe. YDKSAB (you don't know **** about business)

[Boxing Goat]

Because he's a fight blocking, cowardly b*tch.

For all we know, he's been the reason Floyd refused to fight Pacquiao all along and I'm pissed about it.

Crooks hide their faces.

[Deevel916]

He doesn't put his guys against anyone good unless they are fighting another one of his guys and handcuffs the B-side guys into getting the fight with his guy by signing with him as well. Ill explain:
Garcia-Matthysse fought eachother. Great fight, both Haymon guys
Compare that to Garcia's next fight. I know it ended up good but it was made to be a showcase for the Haymon fighter.
Matthysse's next fight was against Molina. Again, fun fight but it was a fight made for Lucas to win. Also he then made Molina sign with him to get the fight, so now that's another guy he will use the same strategy with and he has done this with many fights.

Also he is a big part of the network dispute. All of his guys are on Showtime, so making fights with other outside big names very difficult. There has always been some guys that were tied to a network but this is the only time in history where you can look at just about any fighter and they fight either on showtime or hbo. He ruins good fights like Stevenson-Kovalev by doing this.

His fighters get network dates no matter who they fight. Yes, this can be blamed on the networks too, but to stop it would involve both network to agree to stop this. He left hbo to go to a network that will comply with him. Why? Bc Showtime wants to broadcast Floyd's fights and the other big stars that he manages. So they give into all his demands

I get that fighters want to be paid and he somehow gets them paid, this is helping him get more and more fighters to go to him to get those big paydays. But the more people we see with him, the more of the issues I just outlined.

Btw it's not just him, many other managers do some of the stuff he does. It's just that he has the biggest and best stable of guys so he is able to get away with more so it is worse for the sport than if a small time manager tries to do it. Is he a great buisnessman? Absolutely. Is he good to his fighters? Absolutely. Is he good for the fans? Absolutely not

Perfectly put.....

[BHopp]

Honestly because of Mayweather. But some of it's getting deserved of late. Him taking Stevenson away and screwing the fans out of a fight everyone wanted vs Kovalev and Haymon stole it from us.

[Divine Hammer]

i told you i don't have time to look for all the references you want but you should know it's common knowledge.

he is closely aligned with schaefer, so that says it all.

just search yourself and you will most certainly find the truth. but i believe you refuse to.

i don't understand why you defend someone who doesn't have the fans' interests in mind. it's very sad.

but you have your opinion and i have mind. i at least don't resort to name calling.

peace be with you.

No! That is a derived opinion from others ... Where is the reference data demonstrating that Haymon is deliberately fostering a so-called cold-war?



Just what I thought .... All speculation with no valid reason. In essence, none of you guys claims can stand independently without the support of the crowd, you have to join the popular, somewhat ******ed crowd for a feeling of being a part of something. And in reality, the hate for Haymon is all about who he represents and not about who he is as a person or as a businessman.

Hating on someone without a justifiable cause is disgusting to the point of vomiting Hence, the term, SEWER-**** and it fits some of the morons on this forum perfectly!

I don't play those games in real life or online -- I can give a fuck who doesn't like me online and I can't care less about who likes what I write. This allow me the freedom to be real to myself and my beliefs without consequence!!!

Try it!!!!

Haymon is not a freakin angel, but at the same time he's not the devil either. And all I have to go on is from the Professional Boxer's themselves .... And their opinions are tenfold more valuable than some freakin rat spewing out nonsense on a forum.

[lfc19titles]

because he is using a technicality to break the ali act, the guy is a scumbag only looking after himself, he uses boxers like pawns, just recently he tried to give a few guys back to golden boy (the same ones he stole with that rat richard who was meant to protect the company being the ceo) to get richard on his side. thankfully, oscar told him to f off

haymon is a cancer, he robbed golden boy of nearly all of their talent and breaks the law, lets not kid ourselves, he is the boxers promoter as well, he just uses the term advisor, the guy tried to finance buy golden boy with richard too but failed, he is a dirt bag, low of the low ****** trash

like floyd he is a liar and a cheat, he will do anything to get to the top, even if it means using boxers like toys which is what he is doing, to him this is a game, playing with peoples lives is a game

I wonder if the boxers who haymon tried to give to golden boy as a trade for richard know what their so called advisor tried to do

he is also terrible for boxing, ruining boxing, started the cold war with floyd just so floyd could duck the best, he ran to another network to cement the walls for the war just so his guy can duck the best, he has bleed showtime dry by taking advantage of ******s in charge of the network, he stops big fights from happening (floyd-pac etc) he helps his guy duck people

need I go on?

now take your mouth out of his ckc you filth