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  • Bronx2245
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    #51
    Originally posted by chepe009
    Dude, do you know him personally and have something against him? Which fight did he struggle on? Let me know so I could watch it because I missed it.

    I understand the competition he's faced isn't the best, but you can't deny he's talented. Gary Russell Jr hasn't faced anyone good but you can't deny He's talented. Same with wilder, can't deny he has brick hands no matter who he's faced. True boxing fans can acknowledge when a fighter is talented and has a bright future and Thurman deft does
    What I can't understand, is with all this talk of "sloppiness," he hasn't been beat. Is Marquez a better fighter at welterweight than Thurman? How about Bradley? What about Amir Khan? What about Maidana? JMM, Bradley, and Khan have had big fights. I think Thurman has earned the same respect as those three.

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    • g24fella
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      #52
      Duck?

      Really Richard Schaefer? Guerrero is ducking Thurman but Mayweather is not ducking Pacquiao though right? I guess you have to kiss Floyd's ass for business purposes.

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #53
        This is the fight I want to see. He would be Thurmans biggest test to date by a country mile. I favor the Ghost to beat him.

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        • MurkaMan
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          #54
          Originally posted by chepe009
          Dude, do you know him personally and have something against him? Which fight did he struggle on? Let me know so I could watch it because I missed it.

          I understand the competition he's faced isn't the best, but you can't deny he's talented. Gary Russell Jr hasn't faced anyone good but you can't deny He's talented. Same with wilder, can't deny he has brick hands no matter who he's faced. True boxing fans can acknowledge when a fighter is talented and has a bright future and Thurman deft does
          Russel and Wilder have both faced bums but did WAAAY better. I would never compare Thurman to them. Thurman is known for his supposed power and it takes him forever to get rid of bums.

          Russel at least he puts on a masterclass against his bums. So does Wilder. Thurman has ZERO talent. This dude is a sucky fighter and always gets hit. Its crazy to compare him to Wilder and Gary thats just insane bro.

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          • MurkaMan
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            #55
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            What I can't understand, is with all this talk of "sloppiness," he hasn't been beat. Is Marquez a better fighter at welterweight than Thurman? How about Bradley? What about Amir Khan? What about Maidana? JMM, Bradley, and Khan have had big fights. I think Thurman has earned the same respect as those three.
            ALL of them are MUCH better than Thurman. Bradley? JMM? Khan?? You gonna compare Thurman to THEM?

            GTFO!!! This dude is so sloppy its crazy. Then you all talk about this never before seen power. He takes forever to get rid of guys. When he steps up I think he will be a UD type of fighter if ANYTHING. But he wont be winning em all tbh. I have him vs Berto a 50/50 fight bro.

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            • vman075
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              #56
              Originally posted by MurkaMan
              Thurman hasnt even fought anyone on the level of Aidyn. And Aidyn didnt stagger Ghost LMAO. Ghost beat that man up you tombout survive GTFO!!! LOL

              Berto staggered him and he waked through the shots. Ghost put on a show against Berto and was possessed.

              Thurman can barely beat the bums he fights and takes a LONG time to get rid of them. I dunno if he can beat Aiydin and I can see him struggling against Berto. Berto is allot better than the bums that put Thurman through life and death.

              Berto stopped and basically battered Zanavick and Thurman actually looked good in that fight but never had the power to phase him. Thats the only time when I saw Thurman actually showing some head movement and skills, although he couldnt stop him.

              But after that fight, Thurman showed himself to be a bum that struggles with lower levelers.
              Lets start at the ******ity right from the start. "Thurman hasn't fought anyone on the level of Aydin." So knocking out Soto-Karass after he beat Aydin doesn't count as a guy on Aydin's level? You sound like Victor Ortiz when he says guys who beat him aren't on his level.

              Go back and rewatch the end of Guerrero-Aydin, I don't know the exact rounds but around like 10 and 11 Guerrero is clearly hurt and just trying to hold to stop Aydin. He's not doing anything but surviving those rounds.

              Again you moron, "Berto is allot better than the bums that put Thurman through life and death." He beat Soto-Karass right after he knocked out Berto!! So how is Berto better than all the bums he beat.

              What does it matter how long it takes to get rid of someone, he still wins the rounds before that and then finishes almost every one of his opponents. Guerrrero hasn't gotten rid of someone in 4 years. I'd say thats taking a long time to get rid of someone.

              Berto didn't stop Zaveck the way you're implying he did. He stopped him on a cut that was wrongly called to be caused by a punch. Also he lost more rounds in the 5 he fought with Zaveck than Thurman did in 12.

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              • Bronx2245
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                #57
                Originally posted by MurkaMan
                ALL of them are MUCH better than Thurman. Bradley? JMM? Khan?? You gonna compare Thurman to THEM?

                GTFO!!! This dude is so sloppy its crazy. Then you all talk about this never before seen power. He takes forever to get rid of guys. When he steps up I think he will be a UD type of fighter if ANYTHING. But he wont be winning em all tbh. I have him vs Berto a 50/50 fight bro.
                You must not know what Marquez's record is at welterweight. Even JMM's last fight was against a 140 lb. fighter. We know Bradley lost both of the Pacquiao fights, and his Provodnikov victory is questionable. He beat Luis Abregu and Casamayor at WW and Marquez (if you consider JMM a WW). Thurman just finished a guy that dropped Khan, and Khan's win vs. Diaz was controversial.

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                • Tyler_Durden
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                  #58
                  Robert Guerrero is about one of the most annoying fighters outside the ring and one of the most boring and uninteresting inside the ring. I'll be watching this Saturday's fight card not because Guerrero is the headliner but because Vasyl Lomachenoko vs Russel Jr and Jesus Soto Karass vs Devon Alexander will be on the card otherwise I wouldn't even be looking forward to it.

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                  • MurkaMan
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by vman075
                    Lets start at the ******ity right from the start. "Thurman hasn't fought anyone on the level of Aydin." So knocking out Soto-Karass after he beat Aydin doesn't count as a guy on Aydin's level? You sound like Victor Ortiz when he says guys who beat him aren't on his level.

                    Go back and rewatch the end of Guerrero-Aydin, I don't know the exact rounds but around like 10 and 11 Guerrero is clearly hurt and just trying to hold to stop Aydin. He's not doing anything but surviving those rounds.

                    Again you moron, "Berto is allot better than the bums that put Thurman through life and death." He beat Soto-Karass right after he knocked out Berto!! So how is Berto better than all the bums he beat.

                    What does it matter how long it takes to get rid of someone, he still wins the rounds before that and then finishes almost every one of his opponents. Guerrrero hasn't gotten rid of someone in 4 years. I'd say thats taking a long time to get rid of someone.

                    Berto didn't stop Zaveck the way you're implying he did. He stopped him on a cut that was wrongly called to be caused by a punch. Also he lost more rounds in the 5 he fought with Zaveck than Thurman did in 12.
                    No. Knocking out Soto was not as impressive as Ghost beating down Aidyn. Timelines buddy.

                    And we will disagree on Ghost. Ghost jumped up in weight and walked through Aidyn and Berto's punches and they were supposed to be punchers. He bullied them both.

                    Soto did beat a shot Berto who had one arm. But I dont know who would win out of Berto and Thurman.

                    It matters how long it takes hm to get rid of these bums because you all lie about him being this big puncher. He takes forever to stop a bum. You all overrate this guy so bad you'd think it was Lucas knocking out Lemont and Mike Dallas. Thurman has NO power.

                    He is a UD type of fighter when he starts stepping up. Ghost hasnt gotten rid of anyone but he jumped up in weight and walked through some punchers. Basically battered them, and he fights much better guys than Thurman's trash ass anyway.

                    I think Thurman did great against Zavech. Re-read my comments. He just couldnt stop him unlike Berto did. I think Thurman vs Berto is a 50/50 fight tbh.

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                    • MurkaMan
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      You must not know what Marquez's record is at welterweight. Even JMM's last fight was against a 140 lb. fighter. We know Bradley lost both of the Pacquiao fights, and his Provodnikov victory is questionable. He beat Luis Abregu and Casamayor at WW and Marquez (if you consider JMM a WW). Thurman just finished a guy that dropped Khan, and Khan's win vs. Diaz was controversial.
                      I dont care what you say. Thurman is nowhere near Khan, Bradley, Marcos, or JMM. Look at all the people they fought and skills they have.

                      Thurman has ZERO skills. The only thing he has is this facade power. Take away the facade power he's basically nothing tbh. The crazy thing is he HAS NO POWER.

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