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  • #41
    Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
    Is it better then Floyds over Mosley??

    About the same - There are many variables in the air with this and If I was ranking this, I'd have to take into account that this fight should've taken place 4-5 years prior to the bout.
    Is it better then Cotto's over Mosley's?

    No - but barely - Fresher pre-Margarito Cotto fought a more fresher version of an aging Mosley. I'll give him credit for that; that said he was impressive against an aging Martinez AT 160 when people were saying (including myself) Cotto was going to die in the ring (assuming Martinez knee was right).
    Is it better then Tito's over Whitaker?

    No. I thought The Viper would've beaten the puncher.
    Was it better then Oscars over Chavez?

    No - but one can make an argument that Oscar beat a veteran at that point.

    In my opinion all htese are solid wins, but on this forum certain fights get discedited while others are praised... Ya'll discredit Calzaghes wins over Roy and Hopkins but praise Cottos over Martinez...Please explain and please no name calling of flaming
    Never discredited Calzaghe's win, I thought he did what he needed to do to win the fight, that said, much like Martinez, Roy used his athletisism to get by in fights. Calz win over Hopkins is also credited because Hopkins can't handle younger boxer types (i.e., Dawson Loss).

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    • #42
      Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
      He didn't spar?
      That is a lie. A kid I know from my barrio, Daniel Rosario who trains with Evangelista, was there sparring him.

      LOL at the responses of everyone here diminishing the victory. The knees were ok. His ear drum was a different story. His balance was not affected by his legs, was due to the concussion. However, fanboys and the idiots of NSB can understand that because they are too damn ******.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by B.U.R.N.E.R View Post
        If Sergio was so shot why did 98% of this site pick him to win by TKO? Told yall Cotto would box his ass silly. Martinez lost to the best fighter he ever faced. Its boxing it happens. Its a great win. Best win of Cottos career.
        Are you this dumb? People picked based on Sergio being close to healthy. No one could know for sure how bad his knees were until he stepped into the ring.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by ColdBlooded
          I saw Cotto fighting an old fighter in there. As I was watching the fight, I thought to myself that Martinez looked old, like he couldn't throw punches anymore. I thought his legs looked really weak. The Martinez that fought Chavez and Williams is able to throw combinations without falling over. The Martinez that fought Chavez is able to take punches from a cruiserweight. The Martinez of the Chavez fight is willing to attack the opponent with a high output, something Martinez couldn't do against Murray. I've never seen Martinez's chin look more vulnerable than it did against Cotto. I stand by my statement that the Martinez of the Chavez fight beats Cotto.
          Chavez is so much slower than Cotto. He telegraphs all of his punches. His feet are in concrete. His left hook is long and slow. Martinez obviously looked fresh and fast against him. If this fight was 2 years ago Cotto still would have won that fight.

          Not enough people are taking into account that Cotto was by far the fastest and best boxer Martinez had ever faced. Maybe that's why he looked "crippled" instead of past it.

          That left hook landed behind the ear and made it bleed. His camp even said he might have had a concussion. But it was his knees doe.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by ROSS CALIFORNIA View Post
            Cotto did great, but Martinez definitely showed he is much less than his best anymore. On paper its a great win for Cotto, but in reality, its no where near his best win. The HBO guys are really good at making you think Cotto is sensational now with Roach.
            nailed it right on the head wasn't that significant... Sergio is washed unfortunately ...and we all saw that by the end of the first round ....Time for sergio to hang those gloves up

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            • #46
              Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
              Is it better then Floyds over Mosley??
              Is it better then Cotto's over Mosley's?
              Is it better then Tito's over Whitaker?
              Was it better then Oscars over Chavez?

              In my opinion all htese are solid wins, but on this forum certain fights get discedited while others are praised... Ya'll discredit Calzaghes wins over Roy and Hopkins but praise Cottos over Martinez...Please explain and please no name calling of flaming
              Better than any Floyd wins that the only thing i care about.

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