Comments Thread For: Arum Yanked at Request of SHO From Conference Call

[IMDAZED]

Schaefer leaving GBP, Stephen Espinoza's attitude during the cold war, MGM Grand with all the MayweatherMaidana media during #PacquiaoBradley fight week.

First of all, this networks war begins with Schaefer (GBP) going to Showtime because HBO prefered #ChavezMartinez over the bs fight of #CaneloJosesito.

I'm not saying Arum is a saint... But let's not pretend Arum is the devil and Schaefer and Espinoza are the angels.

This cold war between GBP and TR is about to end, and we, boxing fans, must show our support.

You really think that's the reason Schaefer left? I don't know if you're serious. GBP was moving over as soon as Espinoza got that head job.

[DominiBox]

Care to speak on the money losses hbo has taken due to pac and top rank? Of course not but at the end of the day, sho is doing more numbers than hbo. You lawst.

#PacquiaoBradley made 800K without big names in the undercard.
#MayweatherMaidana with an undercard full of big names, not even 900K

We can add #MayweatherCanelo as a huge success, but not forgetting Guerrero and Maidana were big failures.

Compare Stevenson's numers in HBO to Showtime. I don't give a **** about bragging rights, but HBO almost doubled Showtime's numbers.

So, you need to be careful with that statement.

[PeterNeversoft]

Disagree w/ Alexander vs Soto Karass is a must win for said fighters, especially Alexander.

[DominiBox]

You really think that's the reason Schaefer left? I don't know if you're serious. GBP was moving over as soon as Espinoza got that head job.

I'm pointing the #ChavezMartinez and #CaneloLopez issue as the beginning of the networks open war.

[Mitchell Kane]

I'm pointing the #ChavezMartinez and #CaneloLopez issue as the beginning of the networks open war.

“Yeah, it can be made,” said Mr. Top Rank, matter-of-factly, “but it’s gotta be on HBO because we’re banned on Showtime by [Stephen] Espinoza. So I’m certainly not looking to make him a big fight.” Espinoza, who took over for Ken Hershman (who left for HBO) back in December, is the head of Showtime’s sports department.”We’ve been banned,” he reiterated. “Sampson Lewkowicz been banned; [Lou] DiBella’s been banned because Espinoza, I mean...he’s doing things that no television executive in the 47 years I’ve been in boxing would even contemplate doing- including Ross Greenburg, who would never have thought to do anything like this.”

“Like this” being what?

“Banning suppliers because they’re doing a marquee fight like [Julio Cesar] Chavez Jr.-[Sergio] Martinez on another network,” said Arum, on the September 15th date which happens to be the same day Showtime and Golden Boy are staging a show featuring Saul “Canelo” Alvarez just a few blocks down the street in Las Vegas. “Same day as what?” asked an incredulous Arum, well aware that Golden Boy still hasn’t announced a foe for Alvarez (more on that later). “They still don’t have a fight yet.”

When reached by Maxboxing, Espinoza responded to these comments by stating. “I don’t know where [Arum] gets this stuff. I’ve never told anyone that Top Rank is banned or, for that matter, Sampson or DiBella are banned from Showtime. Now having said that, we tend to do business with people who are good partners for the network and given the choices that Top Rank has made lately and the public statements that Top Rank has recently been making, they’re not a good partner.”

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...e-for-top-rank

[Risen]

#PacquiaoBradley made 800K without big names in the undercard.
#MayweatherMaidana with an undercard full of big names, not even 900K

We can add #MayweatherCanelo as a huge success, but not forgetting Guerrero and Maidana were big failures.

Compare Stevenson's numers in HBO to Showtime. I don't give a **** about bragging rights, but HBO almost doubled Showtime's numbers.

So, you need to be careful with that statement.

Not to mention Mayweather and Pacquiao's minimum purses.

Manny shares, Floyd robs.

[Edmond Dantes]

#PacquiaoBradley made 800K without big names in the undercard.
#MayweatherMaidana with an undercard full of big names, not even 900K

We can add #MayweatherCanelo as a huge success, but not forgetting Guerrero and Maidana were big failures.

Compare Stevenson's numers in HBO to Showtime. I don't give a **** about bragging rights, but HBO almost doubled Showtime's numbers.

So, you need to be careful with that statement.

There was hardly any promotion for Mayweather vs Maidana, so I don't know what you're talking about. It was the same level as promo for Mayweather vs Guerrero. Clearly they felt there wasn't any need to go all out and instead are planning on saving it for the September card, which I bet you will be promoted on the same scale Mayweather vs Canelo was.

[Edmond Dantes]

I'm pointing the #ChavezMartinez and #CaneloLopez issue as the beginning of the networks open war.

The war officially began when Pacquaio turned down a fight with Mayweather in 2009. Leading towards Arum intensifying his smear campaign against Mayweather and a supposed avoidance of Top Rank fighters.

[trufightfanatic]

I really wish people would stop saying that Oscar's willingness to work with Top Rank isbthe reason that Schaefar left GBP. Anyone with a brain knows that all of the moves that happened and those that will follow were well thought out long before Oscar got out of rehab and probably before he ever went in. Its like playing just, u dont make moves in chess spontaneously. That is just a convenient excused that keeps being thrown around. IMO!

[DominiBox]

The war officially began when Pacquaio turned down a fight with Mayweather in 2009. Leading towards Arum intensifying his smear campaign against Mayweather and a supposed avoidance of Top Rank fighters.

Again... Was talking about the NETWORKS war.