It was a bad day for GGG

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  • bopbopbbe
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    #1 how?

    He's not the real middleweight champion and he's not the biggest draw in the division either. Not as long as Cotto is holding the strap.
    How do people not understand that straps only matter with context.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Cuban Linx
      Do you seriously believe Cotto is the no.1 MW? Let's ignore that he's the lineal champ for beating Martinez for a second.
      You can't ignore lineage when it suits you or when it involves a fighter you like. Golovkin is just a belt holder, Cotto beat the man who beat the man and is thus recognized as the REAL middleweight champion of the world.

      If there were only 1 belt per weight class like there should be then Golovkin wouldn't have one right now.

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      • Weebler I
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        #13
        Originally posted by Foreign Soil
        Yeah, he doesn't need to move up as long as there's decent fighters willing to face him. Geale-Soliman aren't bad fights at all, and they might happen back to back.

        Golovkin has been #1 for a while. Dibella's actions put those doubts to rest long ago.
        Yeah, but Martinez still had one hand on it. Not no more. After he beats Geale, everyone will be saying it if they're not already.

        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        #1 how?

        He's not the real middleweight champion and he's not the biggest draw in the division either. Not as long as Cotto is holding the strap.
        lol get outta here. Cotto's not the real middleweight champion in anything but name just like Sergio wasn't after losing at home to Murray. Cotto's not even a real middleweight.

        Originally posted by Cuban Linx
        Do you seriously believe Cotto is the no.1 MW? Let's ignore that he's the lineal champ for beating Martinez for a second. Ask yourself is he better than GGG? Will he beat GGG if they fight? How about the other MWs?

        I think this is one of those rare occasions where the man who beats the man isn't even the man at the division.
        Boxing fans know, and ShoulderRoll knows too. He just doesn't want to admit it.
        Last edited by Weebler I; 06-08-2014, 01:56 AM.

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          #14
          I don't think Golovkin has a problem to move to 168. The only reason for him to stay at 160 was maybe to fight Martinez but that's not going to happen anymore. It's only natural for Golovkin to take a big fight at 168.
          Last edited by GhostBlade; 06-08-2014, 02:10 AM.

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          • _original_
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            #15
            Originally posted by Weebler I
            This, pretty much. It's a good day for Golovkin as he is now the #1 MW without having to throw a punch.
            So GGG is now the man at 160 by default, not because he beat anybody or did anything to deserve it. Sounds about right to me.

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              #16
              Originally posted by GhostBlade
              I don't think Golovkin has a problem to move to 160. The only reason for him to stay at 160 was maybe to fight Martinez but that's not going to happen anymore. It's only natural for Golovkin to take a big fight at 168.
              I don't think those at 168 are in any hurry to face him. Chavez turned him down, Froch wants Chavez, Ward wants Chavez too and can't fight anyway.

              Kessler is a possibility I suppose but that's possibly not a fight which interests K2/Golovkin.

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              • Blu
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                #17
                he should fight Marco Antonio Rubio

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                • Weebler I
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by _original_
                  So GGG is now the man at 160 by default, not because he beat anybody or did anything to deserve it. Sounds about right to me.
                  Uh no? He's an unbeaten world champion with wins over three top 10 MW fighters.

                  Quillin can't say that, Soliman can't say that and neither can Cotto. Golovkin has the best MW record of the champions.

                  Martinez is done, Sturm is all but done and Geale fights him July 26th, who are you picking?
                  Last edited by Weebler I; 06-08-2014, 02:07 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Weebler I
                    lol get outta here. Cotto's not the real middleweight champion in anything but name just like Sergio wasn't after losing at home to Murray.
                    Sergio didn't lose to Murray, he won.

                    Is this another case of you making up a fantasy world in order get away from the harsh truths of reality?

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                    • Foreign Soil
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      You can't ignore lineage when it suits you or when it involves a fighter you like. Golovkin is just a belt holder, Cotto beat the man who beat the man and is thus recognized as the REAL middleweight champion of the world.

                      If there were only 1 belt per weight class like there should be then Golovkin wouldn't have one right now.
                      Lol if there were only 1 belt, Cotto would've never had the chance to face Martinez to begin with. Cotto is only the WBC belt holder due to the very thing you're trying to throw on Golovkin. This is the cherry picking age of boxing. Risk/reward and all of that. Cotto isn't a MW. Even the average Quillin would take his head off of his shoulders with a clean shot.

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