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Why is it when a fighter signs to Haymon its ruled as a bad thing around here?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by jcpryor View Post
    He's affiliated with May weather, thus he must be bad. That's how things work around here.
    Thats how things work in general, and so they should. Both guys are terrible for the sport.

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    • #22
      It's called monopoly, my friend. It's only good for the parties involved but overall not good for the sport. The same way it's not good in business because you get to set prices and undercut other parties in the short run for your own best interests in the long run. Besides too much going into one process creates a bottleneck and inefficiency starts to set in which is why you see a lot of Haymon roster now starting to stay dormant and not active. Too bad fighters are not too smart and not realizing that if you are not one of his prized asset i.e. Floyd, Broner etc, you might get one good fight but then afterwards you are left out in the cold.

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      • #23
        al haymon and schaefer want the cold war to continue. so for the good of the sport we MUST boycott any fighter who is with al haymon.

        we must come together as fans and support oscar.

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        • #24
          Because Haymon is the biggest barrier to the fights people want to see.

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          • #25
            Haymon's is a cowards' refuge. However, that isn't to say everyone with him is a coward.

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            • #26
              people hate to see a black man on top doe, yall racist doe

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              • #27
                Originally posted by face untouched View Post
                every time a new fighter signs to the most influential adviser in the world, also known for getting his fighters the highest recorded purses in there careers,is seen as a bad thing? I cant seem to put my finger on how and why it could possibly be a bad thing when a fighter announces his ties with Haymon,who every fighter praises to the highest degree?
                Because there are many stakeholders in boxing. Promoters and managers, fighters, Networks, sanctioning bodies and the fans. There is only a limited amount of money to go around and it all comes from the fans. Once you improve terms for one stakeholder it makes terms for the others worse. So in this case, AH is getting his fighters more money for easier fights. This means there is less money for the other stakeholders. If the cost of producing what they sell goes up, they either increase prices or reduce output. All while the quality of the product we pay for (fights) goes down.

                Being a fan of what AH and RS are doing makes absolutely no sense for a boxing fan. It's like being happy that the suppliers of your favourite brand of clothes have upped their prices for lower quality material and you being really happy about it. It is working directly against your desire for the best possible product at the lowest possible price.

                Anyone who is a fan of AH doesn't give a **** about boxing as a sport. They simply enjoy their 'guy' winning and feeling success by association when there is really isn't any.

                I agree fighters should be paid well for what they do but Haymon has taken it too far and the fans are suffering and will continue to suffer. You are not a fighter so what they make shouldn't really interest you at all. You're supposed to be a boxing fan so the best fights for the best price should be what you care about, nothing else.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
                  Haymon is bad for the sport, not necessarily the fighters.
                  This. Fighters get grossly overpaid while fighting soft challenges and being kept away from real threats. Plus his new business model is keeping everything in-house now. He won't do business with TR and now I guess GBP. Main Events made their feelings crystal clear about his business practices. So if he gets his way, we'll be watching the Haymon Fighting Championship (HFC) with Big Al playing Dana White.

                  Can't wait

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                  • #29
                    Haymon is no worse than Arum, Schaeffer or any other promoter/manager with power.

                    He's also not the positive force some make him out to be.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by junior gong View Post
                      Thats how things work in general, and so they should. Both guys are terrible for the sport.
                      So are Pacquiao and Arum, in that case.

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