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  • #21
    Originally posted by richardt View Post
    You would think a boxer, especially Froch, would know triangle theories don't count and they don't mean you can just skip a guy because the guy you beat, beat him.
    Tell that to the Calzaghe fans.

    Muh Kessler win
    Muh 25 title defenses
    Muh Hopkins win

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    • #22
      lol@ annihilated

      both fights were close and in both fights most people had groves up on the scorecards

      ****** triangle theories by froch

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      • #23
        Regardless of what Froch says,it is a garbage fight.is their interest in it whatsoever bar from DeGale himself ?

        It likely begrudges Froch these dudes Groves and DeGale stand to earn multiple millions from his name.notice DeGale wasn't overly eager to face a lesser titlist in Bika ? The obvious reason he ducked the WBC's to fight in the IBFs is blatantly to piggy back the success of Froch.

        Froch should just vacate and fight Chavez,Kessler then Ward.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Scott.Weiland View Post
          Regardless of what Froch says,it is a garbage fight.is their interest in it whatsoever bar from DeGale himself ?

          It likely begrudges Froch these dudes Groves and DeGale stand to earn multiple millions from his name.notice DeGale wasn't overly eager to face a lesser titlist in Bika ? The obvious reason he ducked the WBC's to fight in the IBFs is blatantly to piggy back the success of Froch.

          Froch should just vacate and fight Chavez,Kessler then Ward.
          Other way around pal. Bika stated he has no interest in fighting DeGale.

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          • #25
            If degale has the balls he should bypass froch and go fight ward. Everybody laughs right? But ward hasn't fought in ages and has a lot of **** on his mind lately. Degale on the other hand is riding high and handled a guy that supposedly gave ward fits in sparring. he also has a better style for ward than froch or kessler for that matter.

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            • #26
              The DeGale- Groves fight was a bad decision. I've watched the fight twice, had it 116-112 both times for DeGale. He was the better fighter.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                Other way around pal. Bika stated he has no interest in fighting DeGale.
                Bika wouldn't have had an option had DeGale really wanted it all he had to do was keep his WBC silver title Mik Hennessey guided him too.Hearn and the lure of Froch and over a million obviously factored higher than facing Bika on somebody else's undercard !

                Believe what you will,it is of no consequence to me.


                Originally posted by House of Stone View Post
                If degale has the balls he should bypass froch and go fight ward. Everybody laughs right? But ward hasn't fought in ages and has a lot of **** on his mind lately. Degale on the other hand is riding high and handled a guy that supposedly gave ward fits in sparring. he also has a better style for ward than froch or kessler for that matter.
                Their is blatantly more money in facing Froch for DeGale,thus the reason he is being so vocal before and after Froch dispensed of Groves.how else can DeGale entice Froch to face him if Froch is due an optional defence or can just as easily vacate for the bigger money fights fans have an actual interest in.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by F!x View Post
                  So? Froch had a closer fight with Glen Johnson (one judge had it a draw) while Groves had a much easier time with him (shut out). Styles make fights.

                  Froch beat Groves easier than Degale did in the second fight while the first fight will always remain a mystery due to the controversial stoppage. Froch was well behind at that point. Maybe Groves could have survived and won the first fight, who knows for sure? But Froch trained harder and figured out Groves style a little more so he was much better prepared for him in the second fight. Degale might have done the same thing with Groves if they had a rematch - he might have knocked him out legitimately just like Froch did, if he had been given a second attempt.
                  1. Groves beat the empty husk of Johnson who was on a nasty losing downward spiral since froch beat him that was only gaining more downward momentum by the time groves got there.

                  2. Well we do know for sure, that was the whole reason for Froch-Groves II, to find out if the KO was a legit and the second fight showed it was.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Scott.Weiland View Post
                    Bika wouldn't have had an option had DeGale really wanted it all he had to do was keep his WBC silver title Mik Hennessey guided him too.Hearn and the lure of Froch and over a million obviously factored higher than facing Bika on somebody else's undercard !

                    Believe what you will,it is of no consequence to me.




                    Their is blatantly more money in facing Froch for DeGale,thus the reason he is being so vocal before and after Froch dispensed of Groves.how else can DeGale entice Froch to face him if Froch is due an optional defence or can just as easily vacate for the bigger money fights fans have an actual interest in.
                    Bika already fulfilled his last mandatory so he was under no obligation to face DeGale until maybe next year. Bika is with Haymon and he wouldn't have let Bika fight DeGale in London.

                    There was no unwillingness from DeGale to face Bika. Obviously Froch is the fight he wants more - who wouldn't?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Scott.Weiland View Post
                      Bika wouldn't have had an option had DeGale really wanted it all he had to do was keep his WBC silver title Mik Hennessey guided him too.Hearn and the lure of Froch and over a million obviously factored higher than facing Bika on somebody else's undercard !

                      Believe what you will,it is of no consequence to me.




                      Their is blatantly more money in facing Froch for DeGale,thus the reason he is being so vocal before and after Froch dispensed of Groves.how else can DeGale entice Froch to face him if Froch is due an optional defence or can just as easily vacate for the bigger money fights fans have an actual interest in.
                      well this is obvious but froch don't want/need the fight and it doesn't matter how vocal degale is he ain't gonna just wish himself into the fight. He should fight somebody else for now and let froch have his vegas payday. If froch is still fighting after that and degale has a a win over a really good name then he might get the froch fight. But either way it's all up to froch. If he doesn't want it/want to retire after his vegas pay day there's nothing degale can do about that. kessler/abraham/Bika if any of them are willing are good options for degale.

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