If Ruslan Provodnikov Is The Beast Everyone Thinks, Then Why Couldn't He Even Hurt

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  • King_
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    #91
    Originally posted by Da Machine Doe
    And? Molina can punch. Matthysse won every minute of the fight minus the KD's.
    And he's not even close to world class.

    In your OP you mentioned Ruslans lack of defense (he's never been dropped, from what I know) as a reason why Lucas puts him to sleep....


    Yet "the machine" got dropped by a mediocre fighter in his last fight.....

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    • Croyd
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      #92
      Originally posted by Da Machine Doe
      And? Molina can punch. Matthysse won every minute of the fight minus the KD's.
      That's about all Molina can do, he is improving though.
      He looked a lot better vs Matthysse than he did vs Bey.

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        #93
        Originally posted by King-
        And he's not even close to world class.

        In your OP you mentioned Ruslans lack of defense (he's never been dropped, from what I know) as a reason why Lucas puts him to sleep....


        Yet "the machine" got dropped by a mediocre fighter in his last fight.....
        Guys get dropped by mediocre fighters with good power all the time. It's not a big deal.. especially if they dominate the fighter that dropped them

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          #94
          Originally posted by Rocky Rode
          Guys get dropped by mediocre fighters with good power all the time. It's not a big deal.. especially if they dominate the fighter that dropped them
          It's a big deal when you're making a case and a thread about why said guy who got dropped would KO another guy.


          Ruslan would probably KO Lucas

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            #95
            Originally posted by King-
            It's a big deal when you're making a case and a thread about why said guy who got dropped would KO another guy.


            Ruslan would probably KO Lucas
            No it's not. Matthysse has never been KO'd before and he's stopped guys who've never been stopped before (Peterson and Soto. Maybe more but that's all I know off the top of my head).

            Trying to go to war with Matthysse will be suicide for Provo
            Last edited by Rocky Rode; 05-27-2014, 12:22 PM.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Rocky Rode
              No it's not. Matthysse has never been KO'd before and he's stopped guys who've never been stopped before (Peterson and Soto. Maybe more but that's all I know off the top of my head).

              Ttrying to go to war with Matthysse will be suicide for Provo
              Same thing can be said about for Matthysee.... No? Forget never being knocked out.... Ruslan has never even been knocked down... Matthysee has gotten knocked down by John Molina


              .....twice

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                #97
                Originally posted by King-
                Same thing can be said about for Matthysee.... No? Forget never being knocked out.... Ruslan has never even been knocked down... Matthysee has gotten knocked down by John Molina


                .....twice
                Neither guy has been stopped, but Provodnikov has never stopped anyone worth noting. Matthysse has. That's the difference.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Rocky Rode
                  Neither guy has been stopped, but Provodnikov has never stopped anyone worth noting. Matthysse has. That's the difference.
                  Neither guy has been stopped. Lucas has been dropped, Ruslan hasn't. Matthysse stopped Peterson. Ruslan put Tim Bradley on his butt 3 times. Tim Bradley is better then anyone Matthysse has fought.

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                    #99
                    Let's not knock on John Molina , he's a very hard hitting SOB.
                    He lacks a lot of the finer points of a boxer but what he hit's , he hurts.
                    He also has moved up in weight and has been fighting less dehyrdated.
                    John Molina will finish his career with a belt around his waist.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Croyd
                      Let's not knock on John Molina , he's a very hard hitting SOB.
                      He lacks a lot of the finer points of a boxer but what he hit's , he hurts.
                      He also has moved up in weight and has been fighting less dehyrdated.
                      John Molina will finish his career with a belt around his waist.

                      Nothing against Molina, but he doesn't hit has hard as Ruslan, IMO

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