Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Explains Altercation With Rapper T.I.

[Sugar Q]

You might be suprised to realize those categories are fluid for some....I can be ***ish, Chinese, as a matter of fact I could be Mexican (under certain conditions) if I knew the customs, language, etc. My point in bringing this up is that it is a particular view that some African Americans have, that their identity is not accessible to another...is it right? is it wrong? It just is. The thing is that language has to catch up to these feelings and when an opinion about issues such as this is stated, it can always be interpreted as a transgression, as someone trying to speak for another.....

I see your point and I would only say (all kidding aside on this one) that we always have to carefully balance between the comfort of ignorant opinions expressed freely and the dasterdly effects of political correctness and other socially manipulative forms of censorship.

One of the greatest things that has ever been said is: PEOPLE SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THE CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER NOT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN cause contrary to what anyone thinks, IGNORANCE HAS NO COLOR!!!

[Holywarrior]

This thread has now entered full spastic.

[TLC8]

You got me... I was "trying real hard to sound smart." It must have worked on your dumb ass because you responded.

Not because you were smart; you're an idiot

[RubenSonny]

Don't assume what I would or wouldn't say..
If it was Ricky hatton and the dude from oasis getting into it at some mcdonalds over Instagram pics, I would have the exact same reactions and say they are idiots and horrible role models...
Don't try and act like I'm singling out black people just to pile on and make fun and degrade them..
To say I can't have credible judgement and it doesn't matter that I have black friends or grew up with them, lived with them etc is beyond ******...
Face it, you think every white person is racist and is a Donald sterling.. If white people couldn't comment on the black community, we probably would still have slavery and crap like that, because there was a bunch of white people speaking out against it, for the black community, but in your eyes they aren't black so they should just shut up.... That's your shallow, narrow minded kill whitey attitude

You just rambled on about me making assumptions about you then proceeded to make a bunch about me

Actually it wasn't white people commenting on the black community that ended slavery, it was the fact that ****** fought and died for their freedom, it meant that slavery was no longer economically viable and simply not sustainable. Your ridiculous ramblings are just making a mockery of that sacrifice.

Then don't speak about anything that has to do with white people.. Do you see how absurd that is.. Don't talk about immigration or illegal aliens, that's only for Hispanics, don't talk about foxnews, that only for white people, don't talk about government waste of taxpayer money, that's for white business owners..
Do you see how absurd, selfish, and ****** it is not to be able to talk about things.. Actually you probably don't

Well this doesn't make any sense I said the exact same thing before and your response was that you weren't speaking on behalf of black people, now your response is this which one is it?

[billeau2]

"Black kids need to stoplooking at Floyd and T.I. as role models"

"Black kids need to work hard and be Bob Johnson"

I understand though lol, we're over reacting.

Oh I don't think you are overreacting lol...One could castigate Sugar a lot over this statement, its not the smartest thing he has said, and he is a smart guy.I am offended by this statement because it ignores the poverty, ignorance and social maliase affecting poor white communities. It implies an equally slimy stereotype that white people all eschew Mayweather in favor of Bill Gates....We know this is not true! the demographics prove it. I question whether a statement like this can speak for any community actually. I know sugar will look at this and realize he may want to qualify it a bit lol.

[Sugar Q]

What did he advise about taking the brother out of the ******, but unable to take the ****** out of the brother????

Lol, don't know Limbaugh cause I'm blessed to be lavishing in the burbs :-) but just to give your lil mind some info: Many are in the hood but not of it.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I'm going to write a 10 page paper on what it's like to be a Mexican in America. I'm going to interview all my Mexican friends, that way, you know, I'll become a Mexican expert.

Everyone can have an opinion, just don't speak for us like you're one of us.

That's so ******.... So one cannot say that it's a shame that Mexico is corrupted by the drug cartels.. I'm not Mexican so I can't make that statement.. Only Mexicans can have an opinion on how things are in their environment

Simply paying attention in school and using your brain isn't a good thing by itself, BET has been responsible for putting out 'negativity'. It was a terrible example.

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I already responded to this point, I don't think they have any life-altering influence other than inspiring people in their respective fields.

This incident is very minor and isn't influential, it is so insignificant that I wouldn't condone or condemn it as I already said.



You specifically said that hip hop was unlike other music in its influence and negativity.

Are you trying to paint the Kardashians as representatives and exclusive influencers of the white community? Very transparent.

That's dumb.,, being smart and doing good in school is a good thing.. Never seen one person say education is bad".. But yes the bob johnson example was a poor one.. Damon from fubu or ***** are much better examples

I never singled out hip hop as the only form of music that's influential, I brought up David Allan Coe, a white racist country singer that a lot of white youth like because they think he is funny with his racist songs...

Not trying to paint the kardashians for the whole white community but the young white girls that watch that garbage, and the real world, and teen mom on MTV. Those are horrible influences on young girls..
Conservative talk show hosts are also horrible influences as well..
Was never trying to say all black people are like Floyd and TI, just that there is a segment of the youth population that does idolize and emulate them..
I highly doubt I'm gonna see ***** threaten Lebron for being at the same party as Michelle... Do I think you and j the unbiased are gonna go brawling at the local fat burger, no.. But I do think this has a negative impact
And I agree that, yes this incident isn't the end of the world and soon be forgotten but how many times has incidents like this happen.. Stuff like this is becoming the norm, sad to say

"Black kids need to stoplooking at Floyd and T.I. as role models"

"Black kids need to work hard and be Bob Johnson"

I understand though lol, we're over reacting.

So what you are saying is that black kids need to see Floyd and TI as role models

Black kids don't need to work hard and be a successful entrepreneur

I understand now,, and with thoughts like that, no wonder society is so messed up...

[QUOTE=RubenSonny;14591423]

I didn't assume anything... To act like Floyd and TI aren't influential in the black youth community is absurd... I guarantee you they are more popular in irban areas than in some rural country area.. So it's ****** to act like they have no influence at all..
If we were talking about rush Limbaugh, I would say it's a shame that so many white people buy into his rhetoric.
Said the same about kardashian and teen mom on MTV..

There are horrible role models for all races. This thread just happen to be about Floyd and TI, so good forbide you mention urban role models..

People need to get their panties out of a bunch..
Floyd and TI are idiots and bad role models and I feel sorry for whoever looks upon as being cool and that's the way you should conduct yourself in public..

Having a chair throwing brawling mob in fat burger, doesn't exactly scream classy people[/QUOTE]

You have continuously name dropped Floyd in your criticsm but have yet to explain what he did wrong in this situation.

If you read my posts in this thread and the others pertaining to it, I have put the blame on TI, but that doesn't mean Floyd is an angel..
Convicted wife beater, threatens his dad on national tv and calls him a ******, multiple run-ins with the law, posting about how you broke up with ms Jackson because she had an ********,,, that's all really classy stuff... Do you condone that behavior, is that what you think is cool

i don't think he gets it

No you don't get it, but it wouldn't expect you to, obviously you love playing the race card and are quick to jump on someone nonblack who says something about black people with no regard to what they are actually saying..
You fools are saying stuff like kids shouldn't get an education, shouldn't work hard, etc.... It's pathetic

[budfr]

Itīs funny how in the US the term " succesful" means you made money, period. Being smart, compassionate, educated, polite, studious, having culture, etc. means jack if you are not rich, therefore succesful. Someone like Floyd who is unable to speak proper English, canīt use the verb To be correctly, the present simple tense, etc., is arrogant, a loud mouth, a racist, talks about frivolities, has no honoer in the ring and as a man, is a women beater, etc. is considered succesful by many Afrocentrists on this site. He is a bum who happens to have good reflexes in the ring, period.

[billeau2]

Jesus,, quit trying to kiss up to Reuben...

To say public figures aren't role models is an absurd notion that doesn't fit reality


1 did Floyd and TI handle this situation with class

2 are they not role models to some of the youth


That's been my only point, and people get all bent out of shape and wanna play the race card.,,
And you wonder why America is so jacked up....

I actually respect all the opinions expressed. Clearly I had a problem with categorizing your opinion in a way that made it possibly look like it was inflammatory or racially derisive when I thought it wasn't. having established that I then indicated my opinion about your statement. I could have tried to be more supportive but you cannot cite the head of BET as a positive role model!!! Nooooo!!!!!

Anyhow Anyhow yes they are bad bad role models! But is anyone arguing that? The argument is how significant they are as role models.

[billeau2]

Itīs funny how in the US the term " succesful" means you made money, period. Being smart, compassionate, educated, polite, studious, having culture, etc. means jack if you are not rich, therefore succesful. Someone like Floyd who is unable to speak proper English, canīt use the verb To be correctly, the present simple tense, etc., is arrogant, a loud mouth, a racist, talks about frivolities, has no honoer in the ring and as a man, is a women beater, etc. is considered succesful by many Afrocentrists on this site. He is a bum who happens to have good reflexes in the ring, period.

What the hell does honoring Floyd have to do with being afrocentric? What about Floyd or his behavoir is so afroocentric? Lets ask Paul Spadafora, or Justin Beirbor shall we?