Will Haymon be forced to work with Oscar De La Hoya and HBO?

[thabanga510]

Haymon is a smart guy, I assume he has thought of every outcome and has a counter for each.

[Boxing23]

Why is everyone on Harmon c**k . Everybody is talking like they have inside sources . Mayweather ain't putting his own money . Too rank an golden boy going to do business . Every hates on oscar . Lmao

[wiz1030]

That insider dude is a joke and has an extensive history of being a joke.

Again, many of the fighters Haymon advises were originally signed to Golden Boy, way before Haymon even came into the picture. There's only a few fighters where Haymon had them from the beginning or early on. Robert Guerrero recently signed up with Haymon too, and everyone knows he's been signed with Golden Boy for quite some time now.

Guerrero just went through a failed lawsuit where he tried to break out of his contract with Golden Boy. But I guess that was all fake too right?

I get you on the Glaser's credibility or lack thereof. He could be a b/s artist who tries to shade GB (he's apparently a matchmaker) because he has an axe to grind or something. Who knows.

You seem a bit too dismissive about the goings on with the Haymon arrangements though. There's certainly room for su****ion. The terms of the Golden Boy contract haven't really been made public and smartly so if Schaefer indeed has a devious angle. That's why us fans don't know for certain if these guys actually are signed to Golden Boy.

You brought up Guerrero, but on your side of the argument I think he's a poor example. The su****ion around GBP is whether Schaefer is colluding with Haymon to funnel fighters to him and/or have them not official contracted to GBP.

I say that because Guerrero was apparently on GBP, stuck on the shelf after Mayweather, and then tried to break free from the company. CSAC struck his case down and he's 'stuck' at Golden Boy. Two months later we hear he has a deal with Haymon and now all of a sudden he's got a fight set up.

[brettWall]

Schaefer is actually just a company employee, who may well be getting fired. In terms of relationships and connections, other promoters don't speak highly of him, accusing Golden Boy under him of running a closed shop. His connections appear to extend as far as Haymon and Espinoza.

There is a lot of talk about Schaefer doing a great job but rumour has it that the company hasn't made a profit in years with investors now unhappy, it is said to be one of the principal reasons Oscar is wresting back control.

Moreover, Schaefer has all but severed GBP's working relationship with boxing's biggest broadcaster HBO, in favour of going along with Haymon's scheme of moving all the fighters to Showtime, even to the extent where free agents are being allowed to fight on GBP cards. I think he had a misplaced faith in Haymon to the detriment of his own employers, which some are calling a breach of fiduciary duty.

Bottom line, if Schaefer was such an asset GBP wouldn't be having issues with him and Oscar wouldn't be saying things like "I can find another Schaefer". Sounds more like a liability.

Great post. Schaefer seemed to have burned too many bridges. It would have been great if GBP can both do business with SHO and HBO. They've got too many fighters waiting for their turn.

Dela Hoya needs to do something different.

[Holywarrior]

Haymon isn't dumb. If HBO open their arms to them (They should as their roster is terrible) then Haymon would jump at it, guaranteed. Schaeffer better be careful he may be the odd man out here.

[dc3383]

Schaefer is actually just a company employee, who may well be getting fired. In terms of relationships and connections, other promoters don't speak highly of him, accusing Golden Boy under him of running a closed shop. His connections appear to extend as far as Haymon and Espinoza.

There is a lot of talk about Schaefer doing a great job but rumour has it that the company hasn't made a profit in years with investors now unhappy, it is said to be one of the principal reasons Oscar is wresting back control.

Moreover, Schaefer has all but severed GBP's working relationship with boxing's biggest broadcaster HBO, in favour of going along with Haymon's scheme of moving all the fighters to Showtime, even to the extent where free agents are being allowed to fight on GBP cards. I think he had a misplaced faith in Haymon to the detriment of his own employers, which some are calling a breach of fiduciary duty.

Bottom line, if Schaefer was such an asset GBP wouldn't be having issues with him and Oscar wouldn't be saying things like "I can find another Schaefer". Sounds more like a liability.

Canelo was the 1st big Golden Boy asset that fought on Showtime so to say it was haymow scheme is far from the truth. Floyd moving to Showtime is why HBO cut ties with them to be spiteful. What was Oscar doing why all this was going on. He's the owner while Schaefer is the CEO he was in and out of rehab while they were setting record breaking numbers. If they have never made a profit they wouldn't still be in business. If you're constantly in the negative there isn't funds to keep putting on shows and nobody was coming out there pockets to fund these events.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Al Haymon won't have to do anything he doesn't want to. I dunno what he has planned but if he doesn't want to work with Oscar, he won't. Just like he chose not to work with arum

I don't think haymon minds working with other promoters. And honestly arum and top rank has nothing to offer his stable of fighters. Last I checked he doesn't manage any feather weights on the world level. What remains to be seen is if he chooses to work with golden boy headed by Oscar sans Schafer. I think he will, but he doesn't have to.

does floyd/haymon TTT (the ****** team) even have a promoter's license?

there's a reason why they still use GBP for floyd fights. Being a promoter is hard work and you have to put in a lot of your money. its a long game and we all know floyd is about the short quick money.

Its ****** to challenge both top rank and golden boy if oscar cans schaeffer and regain control of GBP.

Haymon is new to the game and he is creating enemies that are established in the game and are as crooked and as rich if not richer than him.

he needs to start threading lightly.

I would assume most of these Haymon fighters are pondering why Maidana (a Haymon fighter) only got paid 1.5 mil with no PPV upside. Meanwhile on the other side of the spectrum, Bradley....a boring fighter with no fanbase, got paid 6 million in a PPV that didn't even do 1 million homes.

Hmm.

the fl 0m 0s seem to think that al haymon is the king of boxing now or something despite the fact that he is just a glorified manager who cant put up fights on his own. maidana's floyd lottery ticket exposed the extent of haymon's power.

these people will know soon enough.

you dont mess with promoters who have been in the game for multiple decades and not think there will be consequences.

Latin fighters need to stay away from Al Haymon he's only there for the Brothers

that's a wonderful business plan considering other black fighters sell as much as floyd..... wait wut????

[radioraheem]

I get you on the Glaser's credibility or lack thereof. He could be a b/s artist who tries to shade GB (he's apparently a matchmaker) because he has an axe to grind or something. Who knows.

You seem a bit too dismissive about the goings on with the Haymon arrangements though. There's certainly room for su****ion. The terms of the Golden Boy contract haven't really been made public and smartly so if Schaefer indeed has a devious angle. That's why us fans don't know for certain if these guys actually are signed to Golden Boy.

You brought up Guerrero, but on your side of the argument I think he's a poor example. The su****ion around GBP is whether Schaefer is colluding with Haymon to funnel fighters to him and/or have them not official contracted to GBP.

I say that because Guerrero was apparently on GBP, stuck on the shelf after Mayweather, and then tried to break free from the company. CSAC struck his case down and he's 'stuck' at Golden Boy. Two months later we hear he has a deal with Haymon and now all of a sudden he's got a fight set up.

Only the misinformed believe that many of the fighters aren't actually signed to Golden Boy. Most of the fighters were signed to Golden Boy, and then later Haymon came into play. It's better you or anyone argue that Golden Boy wasn't profiting overall, than to try and argue that many of the fighters weren't signed.

Guerrero is a perfect example. If Guerrero was not actually signed to Golden Boy, Guerrero would not have filed any lawsuit. Leaving Golden Boy would be very easy. But he could not leave because it was impossible due to his contract. So Guerrero had two choices, continue to foolishly fight the lawsuit like his boy Andre Ward and just make matters worse, or make amends and fight.

Also, Guerrero wasn't stuck on the shelf. He turned down at least two fights presented to him by Golden Boy, one with Keith Thurman, and another with Amir Khan.

[Holywarrior]

Only the misinformed believe that many of the fighters aren't actually signed to Golden Boy. Most of the fighters were signed to Golden Boy, and then later Haymon came into play. It's better you or anyone argue that Golden Boy wasn't profiting overall, than to try and argue that many of the fighters weren't signed.

Guerrero is a perfect example. If Guerrero was not actually signed to Golden Boy, Guerrero would not have filed any lawsuit. Leaving Golden Boy would be very easy. But he could not leave because it was impossible due to his contract. So Guerrero had two choices, continue to foolishly fight the lawsuit like his boy Andre Ward and just make matters worse, or make amends and fight.

Also, Guerrero wasn't stuck on the shelf. He turned down at least two fights presented to him by Golden Boy, one with Keith Thurman, and another with Amir Khan.

Are you the real RR?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Are you the real RR?

id like to know this as well.