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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostI agree with you on one point, without beating FMJ Pac can't be considered "best of his generation." FMJ has been a champion since 1998, and is undefeated, so he is clearly the owner of that title. However, if the cold war ends, and Pac can beat Porter, Thurman and Khan @ 147, he can claim to have beaten the best 147 available to him, and be even with FMJ, especially if he beats them before FMJ. However, beating Bradley, Rios, and the JMM types, are still beating Jr. WWs in a WW title fight. I know he wants to avenge his loss, but Porter, Thurman, and Khan victories (IMO) are bigger statements in regards to his legacy.Last edited by Det. Conan; 05-22-2014, 05:38 AM.
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Marquez has sid several times that Pacquiao and Floyd should be fighting not him and Pacquiao. Marquez has been saying since the KO that he was done with the saga. Before the fourth fight both guys said they were going for a knock out so they can close the book on the rivalry but since it was JMM who got the ko, the masses cried fowl and want him to prove something that he can never prove. When people have something fixed in their minds there is nothing anyone else can do to dissuade their opinions. I feel that if Marquez turns down this fight it forces Arum and Pacquiao to look at GBP fighters and possibly Floyd for a fight. Im tired of Arum using JMM.
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Originally posted by Boxing Goat View PostTaco just knows jmm was getting handled before the lucky home run ko. He doesnt want any part of another. Its one thing to play hard ball but its another to go full b*tch like hes doing now.
How was he gettin handled, didn't he savagely drop Manny in the 3rd round as well before he brutally knocked him out in the 6th...I don't understand you pak_tards logic, Manny won one rd convincingly, rd 5.....anyway it's not how you start the fight it's how you finish, and JMM did both well, we know how Manny fnished - sleep on the canvas!
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Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View PostWe don't know whether Marquez was on his way to getting stopped as much as it appeared that way, what we do know is that Marquez changed his approach to get Pacquiao out of there. Marquez would likely always face that kind of adversity 10 times out of 10 if he approached the fight the same way.
Also, I strongly disagree with number 3, Porter, Danny Garcia, Thurman, Matthysse, Maidana...lots of credible names out there that would enhance his already great resume.
The new WW guys would be good wins for Pac but will not secure him the "best of his generation" title. Only JMM and FMJ will give him that.
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Originally posted by Ericd314 View Post__________
How was he gettin handled, didn't he savagely drop Manny in the 3rd round as well before he brutally knocked him out in the 6th...I don't understand you pak_tards logic, Manny won one rd convincingly, rd 5.....anyway it's not how you start the fight it's how you finish, and JMM did both well, we know how Manny fnished - sleep on the canvas!
So think about what would happen if they fight and JMM can't one punch KD/KO Pac because his acne cleared up. JMM was the one getting outboxed, and when you get outboxed by Pac, he rearranges your face.
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How do you duck a guy you fought 4 times? leaving him out cold in the last encounter? 3 & 4 was because we wanted a conclusive ending, we got that & I felt we did in both fights. Now because it wasn't the result most had hoped for or seen coming there is sudden intrigue for a fifth fight?
Marquez outboxed him clearly in the third fight, he left him lifeless in the fourth. What is it you fans want? Marquez to kill him in the ring or something?
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Originally posted by hypodermical View PostManny dominated every round, minus the 2 roid enhanced punches.
So think about what would happen if they fight and JMM can't one punch KD/KO Pac because his acne cleared up. JMM was the one getting outboxed, and when you get outboxed by Pac, he rearranges your face.
How can you dominate every round when you lost one round 10-8(3rd rd), or get brutally ko'd in one round(6th) and lost 1-2 of the other four rounds, the only rd Manny won convincingly was rd 5, and I'll give him rd 4 ....rounds 1 and 2 were close, I'll give them a round apiece, round 3 10-8 JMM, rds 4&5 Pacquiao, and rd 6 clearly JMM...So again pls tell me how Manny dominated every rd? You pak_tards are truly Special (another word for ******), your next complaint is gonna be that the ref was counting too fast and Pac was on his way to getting up but the ref had a fast count...SMH @ you pak_tards!
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Originally posted by Ericd314 View Post_________
How can you dominate every round when you lost one round 10-8(3rd rd), or get brutally ko'd in one round(6th) and lost 1-2 of the other four rounds, the only rd Manny won convincingly was rd 5, and I'll give him rd 4 ....rounds 1 and 2 were close, I'll give them a round apiece, round 3 10-8 JMM, rds 4&5 Pacquiao, and rd 6 clearly JMM...So again pls tell me how Manny dominated every rd? You pak_tards are truly Special (another word for ******), your next complaint is gonna be that the ref was counting too fast and Pac was on his way to getting up but the ref had a fast count...SMH @ you pak_tards!
pac dominated every round MINUS those 2 punches.
one punch in the 3rd round, won jmm that round, and one punch in the 6th won him the fight.
but in terms of boxing, pac was dominating. if he walked through those 2 punches like he always did against jmm and much stronger fighters, he wouldve been up by 7 points after the 6th round.
what proved to be the difference is JMM's new found super strength. he won by landing 2 punches. can the jmm that fought bradley with stricter testing do that?
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