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  • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    What are you talking about? Rigondeaux used and accepted VADA.
    Not Vada, Wada.

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    • Lol at all of you who don't think jmm is doping

      Lol, 40 years old and has acne on chest and back. Looks like the incredible hulk, somehow knocks out a fighter he wasn't able to drop in three prior fights. Hires a KNOWN Ped expert. Haha, I guess Marquez found the fountain of youth and is on some Narnia ****. Some of y'all fanboys are hilariously delusional. But wait Marquez learned how to lift weights.
      Wait, Marquez got razor buns.
      Wait, Marquez just forgot to wash his chest.
      Wait, Marquez has always had this power.
      Rofl, lets look at this situation if other boxers had these signs. If Pacquiao showed up a little more buffed up and had some acne, all you guys would be all over him with the accusations. If Mayweather showed up with some chest and back acne, holy crap I can't even think of what would happen.

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      • Everyone is acting like Marquez is the only su****ious fighter in boxing and he hasn't even yielded a positive test. Imo, there are a lot of other fighters who should be under scrutiny and they are getting a free pass while Marquez is vilified.

        Conte says he believes Manny/Floyd are on PED's no one cares.
        Donaire works with Conte no one cares.
        Other fighters have never taken a stringent drug test in their career no one cares.
        Other fighters showing great longevity no one cares.

        The fact of the matter is anyone is a suspect not just Marquez. This is a shady industry where every little advantage helps. Of course guys are going to cheat. Fighters who have tested positive in boxing get a slap on the wrist. Why not cheat if there are no repercussions?

        I like all the fighters I named but I liked Clemens and Bonds too. I wouldn't put it past any of these guys.

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        • Originally posted by Public_Enemy View Post
          Everyone is acting like Marquez is the only su****ious fighter in boxing and he hasn't even yielded a positive test. Imo, there are a lot of other fighters who should be under scrutiny and they are getting a free pass while Marquez is vilified.

          Conte says he believes Manny/Floyd are on PED's no one cares.
          Donaire works with Conte no one cares.
          Other fighters have never taken a stringent drug test in their career no one cares.
          Other fighters showing great longevity no one cares.

          The fact of the matter is anyone is a suspect not just Marquez. This is a shady industry where every little advantage helps. Of course guys are going to cheat. Fighters who have tested positive in boxing get a slap on the wrist. Why not cheat if there are no repercussions?

          I like all the fighters I named but I liked Clemens and Bonds too. I wouldn't put it past any of these guys.
          At least those other boxers aren't so obvious unlike Marquez. I mean really I thought Heredia or Horovia however you spell his name is supposed to be some kind of ped expert but Marquez still shows up with acne etc. I mean come on maybe everyone else is doping, but Marquez is on the superman stuff.

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          • i dont gives a shiiet how many test hulkquez passes.. if he's still with memo then that explains it all.. memo is the only ped pusher that openly admits he has created peds way ahead of the testing protocols. im sure memo is not the only one that knows this but he's the only one who openly admits to it so he's guilty as is.

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            • Originally posted by King of Sting View Post
              Not Vada, Wada.
              https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...58014420949243

              Vada-Testing.org
              December 9, 2013

              Congratulations to Guillermo Rigondeaux on again successfully completing VADA testing.

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              • Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                I certainly believe today's athletes benefit greatly from PED use, and that the drugs can trigger a "Superman" effect. However, I've never used steroids or strength enhancing drugs in my life. I've lifted on and off for years, but have never seriously weight-trained for more than about twelve months. A few months' layoff would go by and I'd schlep my sorry ass back into the gym and start all over. My best squat, at a body weight of 170 lbs, was 425 (1 rep max). At the same weight, I would routinely shrug 315 for 12 reps.

                I've known several guys who have used steroids for extended periods and attest to their effects. I've also known guys that claim (and I believe them) that they've never used steroids in their lives, yet they're seriously strong and muscular. In the latter case, genetics and work ethic go a long way toward explaining their success. Part of the confusion within this topic is that most people are simply unqualified to determine what is naturally possible and what isn't. Even with my background, which is more extensive than most, I can't be sure what's "PED-free" possible.

                I start to ask questions when an athlete begins to do things that are rarely seen, as when their athletic performance remains unchanged (or even improved) from their prime years. Of course, in the absence of a failed drug test, other concerns have to be weighed before we go pointing fingers. In JMM's case, I think I've seen enough to believe he's using PEDs. I might very well be wrong, but I feel comfortable in making that statement. I'd be willing to put my money where my mouth is, if there were any way to prove it either way.
                For me, one tell-tale sign that someone is juicing is the up and down cylce between being seriously big and normal size, as the person cylces PEDs. Back acne may or may not be present. The other, more apparent sign is the sudden strength increase, where I notice the person is lifting normal weights one week with normal difficulty, then another week is lifting competition-level weights with virtually no difficulty. I've been working out for thirty years, and I've seen a little bit of everything in the gym. Marquez has always been a little guy with reasonable power. Now, he's bigger and stronger than ever, and he's covered in acne! He's definitely juicing, and until he submits to VADA testing, no one should fight him.

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                • Victor Contes comments mean this to me.

                  "Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't a killer. He just liked to eat flesh"

                  Charles Manson.

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                  • Originally posted by Beercules View Post
                    Typical Floydiot response

                    Duck at all costs like Fraud!
                    Well ask something worth answering maybe

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                    • Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
                      Well ask something worth answering maybe
                      Did ya watch the video I've been asking you since like yesterday and you still haven't given me your thoughts on it.

                      "Nah bruh I'm on my phone still"

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