Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Maidana: Highest Selling PPV Of 2014, But…

[BattlingNelson]

FMM +TMT=TBE SIMPLE MATH FOLK'S

I ran that equation through spellcheck. The result it gave was YDKSAB.

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this article was a bit misleading, way to spin really bad news.


yes the fight generated 63 million in sales but what the article fails to mention is that half of the PPV sales generated goes to cable and satellite providers.

so in reality the PPV sales earned 31.5 million, that's not enough to cover Mayweather's purse.

when you include the live gate the fight might have broke even but still no matter how the writer wants to sugar coat it this PPV was a fail.

which sucks because Maidana was game.

Where did you learn the network gets half?

[big_james10]

im not from the us so apologies for my ignorance here..

who are the cable guys? showtime?

also who is covering the shortfall to make up floyd's guarantee.. showtime again?

who paid broners/khans and the rest of the undercard purses. doesnt it come out of floyd's money or something?

In spite of what you may have read or been led to believe, Showtime does not pay Mayweather's or anyone else's guarantee. The guarantee is paid by the promoter and is based on what the promoter expects to earn from the fee paid by Showtime to broadcast the fight, PPV sales, ticket sales, the site fee paid by the MGM Grand to host the fight, sponsorships and the international rights.

Mayweather's contract with Showtime is a separate contract that has nothing to do with his guarantee. All the bloggers claim that the contract is for more than $200 million, but no numbers have been released on the contract so no one knows for sure how much the contract is worth. However, I would bet everything I own that Showtime is not paying Mayweather $200 million for six fights. I would bet that the number is closer to $60 million or $10 million per fight and no one can dispute that since no one knows what the official numbers are.



The money from the PPV sales, the ticket sales, the site fee and all the other revenue streams was more than enough to cover all the expenses (guarantees). No one lost any money on this fight, in spite of what the ignorant haters claim.

[Evol]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...saturday-fight



Then you add that to the fight with Maidana, another $32 million. So that's three fights with minimum purses of $32 million (although the bout with Canelo was even more).

just as i thought. so showtime is paying floyd 32mil avg for each fight and only ranking in 900k ppv buys? that means they're losing money then.

[pugilistprophet1994]

So....ummm, about that $38m on the back end of PPV, Floyd..

[gyllespie]

Atrocious. Absolutely atrocious.


To recap:

This fight barely generated half the ppvs it needed just to break even.

This fight also shows just how much Floyd's ppvs are dependent upon a stacked undercard, mexican holiday and a big "b-side" opponent.

He fights canelo and it draws 2.2 million (assuming its not the 1.8 million which has recently been reported), then goes and fights maidana and all of a sudden his numbers drop by over 60% to 850k.

Clear as day, that 2.2 million was mainly a combination of Canelo, Mexican independence day and a stacked undercard.

With the most expensive undercard in history, this event was a massive failure - no other way to describe it. Showtime and gbp are losing out big time on this, no wonder schaefer's getting fired.

I hope you're being sarcastic. 900K is actually a great number for a fight that was viewed as one-sided and boring by the general public. It failed to reach a certain goal only because the bar is set so high for Floyd.

Atrocious? Not even close. It will still stand as the highest PPV number throughout the year, most likely beating out Canelo-Lara and Sergio-Cotto (I'm assuming these are both PPV events, I have not checked to be sure).

As for materializing a stacked card and taking advantage of holidays, isn't that purely smart marketing? That's the bulk of Mayweather's success. Don't tell me Pac and Arum don't use the same formula. I recall they tried to take advantage of the Asian market in Macau (with Pac being Asian and all). How'd that turn out? I don't remember hearing about an impressive number for the Pac-Rios fight.

[Evol]

I hope you're being sarcastic. 900K is actually a great number for a fight that was viewed as one-sided and boring by the general public. It failed to reach a certain goal only because the bar is set so high for Floyd.

Atrocious? Not even close. It will still stand as the highest PPV number throughout the year, most likely beating out Canelo-Lara and Sergio-Cotto (I'm assuming these are both PPV events, I have not checked to be sure).

As for materializing a stacked card and taking advantage of holidays, isn't that purely smart marketing? That's the bulk of Mayweather's success. Don't tell me Pac and Arum don't use the same formula. I recall they tried to take advantage of the Asian market in Macau (with Pac being Asian and all). How'd that turn out? I don't remember hearing about an impressive number for the Pac-Rios fight.

u've got to be ******** kidding me right? LOL!!!!! they did that so asia can get expose to boxing not so much for the pac/rios fight but for the future. and pac is filipino, he fought in china, chinese dont even get along with filipinos like that LOL.

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Can anyone enlighten me on What is PPV upside is? I have no clue but a guess:

Is it the bonus revenue generated above break-even point? that gets split among fighter/Promoter

For example:
1M-buys = even-point, but the PPV did 1.5M-buys, Therefore 500k-Buys = PPV upside?
How would the Network profit from Upside?

Floyd gets 32 mill + PPV upside that could be realistically from 15m-45m extra.

From one PPV buy $60 i find it very hard to believe cable guys gets $30 from it. They are not the product. Who keeps saying Cable guys get Half the PPV?

[radioraheem]

just as i thought. so showtime is paying floyd 32mil avg for each fight and only ranking in 900k ppv buys? that means they're losing money then.

Whether they are losing money, or whether they are making money, Showtime, nor HBO, would not even come CLOSE to going bankrupt over the lucrative Mayweather deal. And that was the whole point of my response, that no way in hell could they go bankrupt over it.

[ihatebobarum]

This is what Chino does when he is not in training camp or fighting

old man can move better than maiden.