8 fighters Floyd Mayweather should have fought in their prime

[DonSimon87]

I disagree with 3 fighters on the list, he was suppose to fight the winner of the Casamayor vs Freitas fight. He said they both didn't want to fight him, so he moved to 135 to fight Castillo.Tszyu was already past it it when Floyd moved plus he had a injury that held him in the sidelines. When Floyd fought Gatti he already said the real champ is Tszyu and he wanted the fight after he fought with Gatti but Hatton beat him and Hatton did not want the fight with Floyd at that time. Hbo and all them said that fighting Floyd is high risk low reward because he had a completely different reputation back then. You could go to different boxing forums and see what people thought at the time in 05, 06 about the 140 division.

This is what people fail to realise. Back in the lighter weights Floyd was avoided as he was seen as too high risk and wasn't a big PPV attraction. We all know the story about Mosley's 'toothache' and 'vacation' claims, that's a live interview anyone can see on YouTube. We know Cotto was said to be 'too green' when Mayweather called him out.

The only fighters you can say he's possibly avoided is Margarito and Williams.

[daggum]

No it wasn't Floyd didn't turn down anything. Winky is the only guy who refused something and walked away from the table which again was a more than reasonable offer. Something he did over and over again in his career.



Arum said this, when did he say it?

Do you have anything from 2005 from an unbiased source that they were in talks in 2005? Hell, a quote from Arum from 2005 even.

Floyd avoided the Margarito fight, by the way, I agree with that. In 2006.

2005? I don't recall them being in talks in 2005 unless you can pull up one of your beloved articles and show me.

when you ask for more money when the fight is already agreed upon that means you turned it down. your semantics won't work on me. i'm smarter than charlie zelenoff.

the article was on maxboxing. you can do a google search. that is a quote from arum that was posted on maxboxing. i'm sure you have better sources than maxboxing of course. who needs sources when you have opinions am i rite!

[IronDanHamza]

when you ask for more money when the fight is already agreed upon that means you turned it down. your semantics won't work on me. i'm smarter than charlie zelenoff.

Nothing was signed at that point they were still negotiating.

All we have from you is Shaw's side anyway. Arum's story is different but I suppose Arum's word isn't legitimate here only when it's against Floyd?

Either way, fact is 55-45 was a more than reasonable split for Winky and he turned it down and walked away from the fight.

the article was on maxboxing. you can do a google search. that is a quote from arum that was posted on maxboxing. i'm sure you have better sources than maxboxing of course. who needs sources when you have opinions am i rite!

What have I stated that's opinion?

I'm asking when that article is from. Is it from 2005?

If not do you have one from 2005?

Because I actually followed Boxing in 2005 and I don't recall them being in talks in 2005.

2006 yes. 2005? I don't recall that.

[daggum]

Nothing was signed at that point they were still negotiating.

All we have from you is Shaw's side anyway. Arum's story is different but I suppose Arum's word isn't legitimate here only when it's against Floyd?

Either way, fact is 55-45 was a more than reasonable split for Winky and he turned it down and walked away from the fight.



What have I stated that's opinion?

I'm asking when that article is from. Is it from 2005?

If not do you have one from 2005?

Because I actually followed Boxing in 2005 and I don't recall them being in talks in 2005.

2006 yes. 2005? I don't recall that.

yes and im sure the rehydration clause was reasonable too right? the article was on maxboxing. you can check google and it was from 2005 around the mitchell fight. if you can't find it you can also tweet steve kim who wrote it. maybe he has more details about floyds ducking. i'm pretty sure a big site like maxboxing wouldn't print arum bashing his own fighter unless it actually happened.

[IronDanHamza]

yes and im sure the rehydration clause was reasonable too right? the article was on maxboxing. you can check google and it was from 2005 around the mitchell fight. if you can't find it you can also tweet steve kim who wrote it. maybe he has more details about floyds ducking. i'm pretty sure a big site like maxboxing wouldn't print arum bashing his own fighter unless it actually happened.

No I don't think it was reasonable but that was accepted so that's not the issue.

What wasn't accepted was the split. Which was reasonable.

Well why can't you provide the article? You're the one that's claiming Floyd turned down Margarito to fight Sharmba Mitchell not me.

[jose.sooto]

LMFAOOO i can't believe people are going in on Floyd 'ducking' freaking Winky Wright. I wonder whose name will come up next , Julio Cesar Chavez Sr ? smh

[jose.sooto]

Who hasn't Pacquiao fought? He's fought everybody with a name.

EXACTLY! Pacquiao has beaten all the names. Oscar De La Hoya , Shane Mosley and Rick Hatton (Floyd leftovers). Antonio Margarito (after Mosley TKO). Clottey (Coming of a lost). Miguel Cotto (Draining him after Margarito TKO).

I wonder how Manny Pacquiao would of done against Chicanito Hernandez , Diego Corrales , Jose Luis Castillo , Arturo Gatti , Zab Judah , Canelo , Maidana etc

[soul_survivor]

Joel Casamayor

Back in 2001, he was one of the reasons behind the surge in populatiry of the super featherweight and lightweight divisions. He was then undefeated and had an awkward style that most opponents had a tough time with. Floyd Mayweather shared the same time with Casamayor in those weight divisions but they never met.

Acelino Freitas
Acelino Freitas was also one of those undefeated super featherweights at the turn of the millenium. Unlike Casamayor, Freitas was an extremenly exciting fighter. Freitas also did not get to fight Mayweather. Instead he locked horns with Casamayor and scored a decision win against him.

Kostya Tszyu

The Thunder from Down Under Kostya Tszyu was a blood and guts warrior who was a unified light welterweight champion in 2004. By 2005, Mayweather also stepped into that division but Tszyu lost via knockout to an up-and-coming Ricky Hatton. He called it quits after that.

Winky Wright

Mayweather, then with Bob Arum's Top Rank Promotions, was already ironing out details for a fight against the dangerous Winky Wright back in 2005. Both camps already agreed to most details of the fight including rules about the weigh in to limit the advantage of the naturally bigger Wright. However, Mayweather pulled out late and instead fought Sharmba Mitchell.

Antonio Margarito

In 2006, Mayweather got a big offer to fight WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito. He declined and instead chose to fight Zab Judah who was coming off a loss to Carlos Baldomir.

Paul Williams
For a time, Paul Williams was regarded as boxing's most ducked fighter. He was tall and lanky and a match-up nightmare for anyone in the welterweight division. He ended up getting put to sleep by Sergio Martinez but Williams could have given Mayweather a tough fight specially at 147 pounds.

Miguel Cotto

Miguel Cotto was an option for Mayweather in 2007 to 2008. But after beating Ricky Hatton, Mayweather decided it was better for him to retire from boxing. It robbed the fans of the best welterweight showdown at that point. Mayweather did fight Cotto at 154 years later but the Puerto Rican was already carrying the wear and tear from matches against Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, and the last person on the list.

Manny Pacquiao

A match between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather is already years late. However, even at this point in time, it will still generate a lot of money for both fighters. Mayweather refuses to take a fight with Pacquiao as long as he is under Bob Arum's Top Rank Promotions.
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I can forgive the Casamayor/Freitas fights simply cos Floyd in and around that time period managed to fight Castillo (2x) and and Corrales, so those were good replacement fights and Castillo was probably the best of the lot so no qualms with that.

KT can sort of be forgiven too considering Floyd was clearly using 140 for a jump up to 147.

Now ducking Williams (which a lot of people on many forums called for for years), Margarito and prime Cotto just can't be forgiven. It was terrible, not to mention Pacquiao, who he's ducked for half a decade now and his excuses have got more preposterous by the year. This fight will probably happen now that Pac is badly faded.

And I had no idea about the Winky scenario, that's hilarious, LOOOL @ he pulled out last minute. TBE does it again.

[arizashakes]

Floyd is a great fighter and has great work ethic but no way is he the TBE of the best fighter of his era - that title belongs to Pacquiao. Floyd just avoided too many fighters, the most glaring being Magarito, Williams, Cotto and Pac. Now I've just read the Winky Wright situation as well!

[bluebeam]

Juan Manuel Marquez spent the majority of his career at 126. After a brief stint at 130, he went to 135, for two whole fights!! Not one fight at lightweight, but a grand total of two!! Floyd, by the time he had fought Marquez, had been at welterweight for a number of years and fights. He also fought as high as 154. lol @ Floyd being the bigger name than Winky. They were equals at that time. I guess its ok to you for Floyd to fight a guy from basically three divisions lower, than it is for him to move up a couple.

Typical Floyd stan. Whats good for everyone else, isn't good for floyd.

pacquiao only fought 1 fight at 135 before going too 147 too fight Oscar? whats your point? why is it okay for duran to go from 135 too 147 too fight sugar ray leonard. or mosley too go from 135 too 147 too fight de la hoya? or pacquiao going from 135 too 147 too fight de la hoya? but its a joke when marquez goes from 135 too 147 too fight Floyd?