Breaking down the numbers why 40 million only was an absurd offer from floyd

[Kuyukut]

it's beyond comprehension that people still believe fraud. they can twist and bend everything but the fact is fraud has no intention of fighting pac.

are some people really dumb or just they can't accept facts?

google it, idiots.

[JDD1]

I agree with Roach. Pacquiao should have called your idol's first bluff right away. Chicken Floyd would have been exposed early. These discussions would be non existent.

Look at what happened. Pacman called his testing bluff and he came up with 0%PPV offer. A boring chicken who pulled a fake retirement to avoid competition, sneaked in and out of the ring fighting once a year don't deserve that kind of money. He's not even a Tyson type PPV attraction. People watch to see him lose.

Today his excuse is Arum has to disappear first. What happened? Hehe...

Give it up doe.

Manny didn't "call his bluff" because he tried that with the $10 mil per lb overweight fee and floyd said "ok, no problem." My guess, Manny was afraid floyd would say yes.

Doesn't matter. Manny got another offer, turned that down as well.

One guy is expected to fight GGG, sergio or Lara. the other guy, the JMM/Alvarado winner.

Really no point to discuss further.

[JDD1]

it's beyond comprehension that people still believe fraud. they can twist and bend everything but the fact is fraud has no intention of fighting pac.

are some people really dumb or just they can't accept facts?

google it, idiots.

we don't believe floyd, we believe roach. he is the one blaming bob and manny. red K him.

[thabanga510]

Well so far for his last fight Pac has only gotten $6 million. I think $40 million off the top is better than what he is getting with Arum now.

[mourinho1]

Mannys flat 40 million goes all to him while mayweather is the one who has to split whatever he makes with his team as he is his own boss/ promoter of the fight. Floyd is the promoter, not just the fighter. when has Arum ever done anything different when he promoted pacquiao?

HMMM ive got a good question to the pac+Arum supporters Do y'all believe saint Arum would pay saint pacman more than FMJ offered him 40M??This is a serious question tho'

Schaefer makes it clear that if Arum starts providing advice to Golden Boy fighters in the press, then Schaefer will return the favor by providing advice to Top Rank promoted fighters.

"What is a bit troubling is that Bob wants to give Golden Boy fighters advice. I would be happy to do the same with Top Rank fighters, and maybe I would start with Timothy Bradley - who had a signed rematch provision with Manny Pacquiao for $10 million dollars. But instead of Pacquiao he got Provodnikov, and instead of $10 million he got $2 million for an HBO fight, where it almost cost him his life," Schaefer said.

"So now, how is Bradley getting rewarded? He's getting Pacquiao. That's great. But is he getting the contractual $10 million dollars? No he's not, and why is nobody bringing up that ****. If I would be Bob, I would leave it at this. Let's not go down the line, because if he wants to go and give Golden Boy fighters advice - I'll be happy, I'll be very happy to do the same with Top Rank fighters."

Last thing is that many people tend to believe that every dollar goes in to the fighters pockets etc... I still believe peeps like Haymon,ellerbe,GBP and showtime and the promotion will cost some millions. I honestly cant believe that GBP doesnt get a % everytime FMJ steps in the ring, but maybe im wrong tho'. For a first offer it sounds damn good, just make the fight and in the rematch make the same offer the A-side offered, if you truly believe you can win

[FrenchDeLaHoya]

60-40 to the winner, the end..
stfu nd get this sht poppin.. its boxing, fight..

[fighter1234]

You can argue that the 40m offer was a genius business move by Mayweather. He predicted the market. After Pacquiao declined that offer, his next 3 fights generated an average of 780k ppv buys wile Mayweather generated an average of more than 1.5m for his next 3. In financial terms, Mayweather valued the commodity perfectly. Pacquiao was actually worth less at the time than most people thought.

[junior gong]

You can argue that the 40m offer was a genius business move by Mayweather. He predicted the market. After Pacquiao declined that offer, his next 3 fights generated an average of 780k ppv buys wile Mayweather generated an average of more than 1.5m for his next 3. In financial terms, Mayweather valued the commodity perfectly. Pacquiao was actually worth less at the time than most people thought.

That is one of the worst and most arse licky things ever typed by a floydiot! Predicted the fooking market, did he? Crystal ball floyd now.

[boxingfeind]

I know this is a topic that people bring up a lot, and an old one at that, but I wanted to actually break it down. *sorry for the long post*

Okay, Ive seen this argument used a lot around here, and of course people have always countered with "its only 40 million guaranteed, floyd gets the ppv revenue and everything else" which is obviously a good counter argument and the discussion should end there, but when Floyd fans say "well it was his highest pay day anyway, he should have taken it", I'll explain why that is just insanely crazy to even think pacqiuao should accept that offer. But here is the numbers first

lets say pacman accepted this offer, and floyd gets the ppv revenue and and the gate revenue. Pacman would get his 40 million, and floyd would get the rest. How much is the rest? Lets break it down

Pacman vs Bradley 2 generated 49 million dollars in ppv revunue for 750k buys. Now thats already a lot of money, but how many buys would floyd vs pacman do? A LOT more. If canelo vs floyd can do 2.2 million buys, floyd vs pacman could easily do 3 million buys, probably more. But lets be safe and say its 3 million.

to put this into perspective of how much floyd makes off of ppv, according to Forbes it takes 1.5 million buys for Floyd to make 50 million all things considered. so we times it by 2, thats already a 100 million dollars right there. plus live gate revenue and any other ways of making money that pac wont be getting. That could be 10s of millions of dollars, probably 15 million dollars for floyd. What about Guaranteed purse? pacman clearly didn't mention that, but you better bet your ass floyd would get a guaranteed purse, and certainly higher than mannys, lets be real safe and low and say 50 million.
Truly speaking how much is floyd making that night? with cuts and giving to promoters and such...

Pacqiuao 40 million
Floyd 115 million

So how much is floyd getting percentage wise? 75% of the money, manny 25%, and Im not even considering the fact that they could easily increase the price of the ppv to at least 10 dollars higher if they wanted to.


Just insane of floyd to give manny an offer that is potentially only 25% or less knowing how big of a star manny is. Manny could make this money in two fights and be fine, this is supposed to be a super fight and manny is right expecting super money, not just a little higher than he gets now. it takes two fighters to make a super fight, and floyd acts like he is the only one that matters and that is simply wrong

Before the Floyd vs Canelo fight people were estimating that Floyd vs Pac do 150-200 mil in PPV.Floyd fights under his promotional in which he spends a minimum of ten mil to finance the promotion of his own fights and pays Goldenboy a fee to handle the logistics,Pacquaio has a promoter who finances
his fights,so that would mean Arum and Mayweather deserve a much bigger cut then Pacquiao,especially Floyd since he brings in a big fanbase and he would have been getting in the ring to fight Pac, plus he would have provided out his pockets money to help finance the fight and Pacquiao would not have spent a dime to finance a fight.

Now if the fight was to generate 200 mil in PPV,PPV company gets half which would leave 100 mil for Arum and Floyd to split.And Floyd in a Esnews interview said he was gonna offer Pacquiao a portion of the PPV,he just wasn't gonna give Pacquiao half of the Revenue in which pacquiao was asking and didn't deserve.

In the first negotiations of the Floyd/Pac fight Floyd offered Pacquiao 50% (in which Pac did not deserve)and agreed to Pacquiao demand of paying ten mil if Floyd comes over 147 pound limit,but Pacquiao refused to agree to the testing Floyd wanted because Pac was most likely juicing.Pac turned down Floyd offer,then Floyd took the original offer off the table.

[fighter1234]

That is one of the worst and most arse licky things ever typed by a floydiot! Predicted the fooking market, did he? Crystal ball floyd now.

Not crystal ball, common sense. After watching Pacquiao Marquez 3 where Pac went life and death with a guy Mayweather shut out, Floyd knew it was only a matter of time before Pacquiao lost for real.