Official Juan Manuel Marquez - Mike Alvarado Master Discussion Thread

[-jose-]

I was at his last 4 fights in NY but the undercard is one of the worst i've ever seen, i dont fell like buying $200 tickets to see yuri foreman. I always come when the gates open to watch every fight. Ill see what happens in the next couple weeks.

you went to the Yuri fight?

I was there also.

[ManOfVictory]

this was garbage.

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[JOM'S]

That was trash.

If I was Pac, I'd take a page out of Floyd's book and do some strategic ducking.

Another JMM fight is too dangerous.

the thing bro Pac is not that type, even us fans, although we know the fight is dangerous and big possibility the PAC could ge KTFO again but us pac fans if we cant get mayweather we want another shot with marquez...

imho this victory just proved that JMM and Pac are way above alvarado or rios class...

[Guest]

the thing bro Pac is not that type, even us fans, although we know the fight is dangerous and big possibility the PAC could ge KTFO again but us pac fans if we cant get mayweather we want another shot with marquez...

imho this victory just proved that JMM and Pac are way above alvarado or rios class...

The speed difference is crazy. JMM looked a tad slow against Mayweather and Pac but he looked like Usain Bolt here.

It just shows you how much faster those guys at the top are.

When you are a pressure fighter if you can't find a way to neutralize speed and cut off the ring early, the night becomes a nightmare.

[Showtime..]

The speed difference is crazy. JMM looked a tad slow against Mayweather and Pac but he looked like Usain Bolt here.

It just shows you how much faster those guys at the top are.

When you are a pressure fighter if you can't find a way to neutralize speed and cut off the ring early, the night becomes a nightmare.

Pacquiao vs Rios
Mayweather vs Ortiz
Yeah, the Top 4 WW's are miles ahead of everybody else in speed excluding Khan, but that's his natural thing.

[JaYDeuce11]

Yuup its truly amazing how A level fighters like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Marquez, Martinez make B or C level fighers look like unskilled bums even after theyve been in entertaining wars like Guerrero, Ortiz, Rios, Alvarado, Chavez Jr.
Crazy to see how much it takes to truly be the best in boxing. Probably thee hardest sport to make it

[BennyST]

Marquez never had that power, sickens me to see him able do that with his right hand with a steroid chemist at his side.

Disgusting.

What sickens me is this type of baseless, clueless assertion about a subject which you very clearly have no ****ing clue about. Do yourself, and us, the favour of at least learning something about the guy you're are talking about. We have enough idiocy on NSB without your ignorant bias cluttering the joint up.

First up, Marquez is 2-3 at 147 with one KO. One knockout in five fights. The way you go on, it would seem as though he's suddenly blitzing guys now where he never would have done in the lower divisions.

Under Heredia, six fights all up I believe he's only had two KO's and one of those was basically a dive in a crappy tune up. Bacially one KO in the last four years.

At 135/140, without Heredia, he had four fights, with three KO's.

Now, you go on, in typical NSB style ******ity, about winning a decision and scoring one knockdown in the process, over a guy that had been knocked down two times, staggered numerous times and knocked out twice in his last three fights before Marquez, like its impossible and unheard of.

What you just said is embarrassing to say the least. Get a ****ing clue.

Edit: only two knockdowns against Prov and Rios, but staggered and stopped by Rios.

[BennyST]

Going even further, at 126 in his last 11 fights from when he stepped up to championship level consistently and from when he won his title, he stopped 7 of those 11 fighters, and that includes numerous guys that had never been stopped before. Compare that to 1 KO in five fights at 147.

Now you cry about him dropping a guy once, that had been dropped two times in three fights and stopped twice in those three fights? I don't even know what to say to this type of straight out ignorance. It's pitiful.

Edit: my mistake, I remembered when he was wobbled by a jab against Rios as a knockdown. So it's two knockdowns against Prov, but staggered and stopped by both both Prov and Rios.

[salitap4p#1]

Going even further, at 126 in his last 11 fights from when he stepped up to championship level consistently and from when he won his title, he stopped 7 of those 11 fighters, and that includes numerous guys that had never been stopped before. Compare that to 1 KO in five fights at 147.

Now you cry about him dropping a guy once, that had been dropped two times in three fights and stopped twice in those three fights? I don't even know what to say to this type of straight out ignorance. It's pitiful.

Edit: my mistake, I remembered when he was wobbled by a jab against Rios as a knockdown. So it's two knockdowns against Prov, but staggered and stopped by both both Prov and Rios.

Tell me about it.

They're making it sound as if he's just given Floyd the beating of his life.

I don't want to take anything away from JMM, but he beat a guy that's been given serious beatings before, and not even that long ago.

Further, he beat Alvarado in exactly the same way he's been beating guys for years and years. Casa, Katsidis, Diaz etc all were defeated with that formula of timing and footwork giving rise to those accurate combos.

Had JMM put him away in a couple of rounds I'd see where people were coming from. but Alvarado ate his hardest shots all night and he wouldn't go away.

[DoubleMM]

Alvarado looked downright PATHETIC and yet HBO tried to hype him up; almost rooting for him. He would miss every single punch and get smashd by 3 punch combinations and HBO would claim he has a great chin and heart. It was truly pathetic.