Why should Wlad get to leap frog Wilder? Wilder has been the mandatory

[LacedUp]

can't really remember but was haye mandatory when he fought wlad?

Ruslan Chagaev was a voluntary I think.

I stand corrected.

[LacedUp]

yeah, i know haye had valuev belt...

I dont think it's because of wlad not wanting to fight tough mandos but because the terms in that case are not the best for the opposite fighter, although lepai getting 1.5m is great imo.

Well, why would Wlad take a tough mando and pay him millions and take less himself when he can get a pianeta over, pay him not much and take more? German fans are there either way.

Yes, but leapai was also a mando.

If Vlad fights and beats Steverne, Wilder would be his mando. So the fight has a bigger possibility of happening with a unification.

Well, Wilder would be the WBC mandatory. How long is Wlad allowed to keep the belt should he win it? Isn't it the WBC rule that they don't want unified champions? Wlad would also have a IBF mando, then comes the WBA mando, Fury-Chisora is a final eliminator for the WBO, then there's also the WBC.

Just saying, if Wilder beats Stiverne - the unification has a bigger chance of happening.

[Simurgh]

I would really like wlad fights winner of fury-wilder, meaning these two should fight before they challenge wlad.

that way they get more experience, better man wins and wlad actually gets some credit when he beats the guy.

[LacedUp]

I would really like wlad fights winner of fury-wilder, meaning these two should fight before they challenge wlad.

that way they get more experience, better man wins and wlad actually gets some credit when he beats the guy.

That would be great, but doubt it's going to happen.

But Wlad could also fight both guys.

[Simurgh]

That would be great, but doubt it's going to happen.

But Wlad could also fight both guys.

even if he beats both of them before they have any solid wins on their record it would be seen as the addition to bums list.

even haye became a bum when wlad beats him, not to say povetkin, tt, chagaev..

better, lets say wilder kos fury (i doubt) and then we have a massive fight.

[Russian Crushin]

Well, Wilder would be the WBC mandatory. How long is Wlad allowed to keep the belt should he win it? Isn't it the WBC rule that they don't want unified champions? Wlad would also have a IBF mando, then comes the WBA mando, Fury-Chisora is a final eliminator for the WBO, then there's also the WBC.

Just saying, if Wilder beats Stiverne - the unification has a bigger chance of happening.

Why would the WBC sanction a unification fight then if their rules are that they dont want a unified champ?

How exactly does Wilder getting a belt make it more likely that he fights vlad when the WBC dont allow unifications?

[LacedUp]

even if he beats both of them before they have any solid wins on their record it would be seen as the addition to bums list.

even haye became a bum when wlad beats him, not to say povetkin, tt, chagaev..

better, lets say wilder kos fury (i doubt) and then we have a massive fight.

I don't think so.

There's a wide distance between guys like Pianeta and Leapai, to Haye, Fury, Wilder, Stiverne imo.

Of course, beating Wilder would add more to his resume, had Wilder actually managed to beat a Stiverne or Fury first (or both), but I don't think he would go down as a bum. Just what he is at the moment, which is a strong guy with a padded record.

Why would the WBC sanction a unification fight then if their rules are that they dont want a unified champ?

How exactly does Wilder getting a belt make it more likely that he fights vlad when the WBC dont allow unifications?

I never said they don't allow unification fights - they don't allow unified champs, which is why they've stripped a few of their fighters like Andre Ward for example.

So if Wilder had the WBC belt, there's a bigger chance of him getting a shot at Wlad because Wlad wants that belt. However, if Wlad takes the belt vs Stiverne, he'll most likely be stripped straight away and then Wilder will have to fight someone else for that belt.

Get it?

[Hougigo]

And now unification doesn't matter. Why should Hopkins fight Stevens over his mando fight coming up?

But dats different doe

[Hougigo]

Honestly, this is hilarious now. People here got all offended when IBF said that Hopkins would have to negotiate with his mando Dudechenko/Mohamandi by July or something and people called B.S.... he should be able to unify because we want to see one champions and the belts unified.

Now the current lineal HW champ wants to fight for the WbC and unify and people be like, you can't hope past the mando! Now paper belts are as valuable as gold and worth everything in the world.

[JDD1]

Honestly, this is hilarious now. People here got all offended when IBF said that Hopkins would have to negotiate with his mando Dudechenko/Mohamandi by July or something and people called B.S.... he should be able to unify because we want to see one champions and the belts unified.

Now the current lineal HW champ wants to fight for the WbC and unify and people be like, you can't hope past the mando! Now paper belts are as valuable as gold and worth everything in the world.

Most fans just would rather see stivernne vs other HWT's because they think it would be more exciting. People, mostly US fans, do not want to be forced to have to watch wlad in another terrible fight on TV.

Instead of just saying that, posters have to try and make what they think is a valid arguement.