Bermane Stiverne vs. Deontay Wilder

[Caught Square]

Wilder been TKO'd in the amateurs and nearly Ko'd in the pros against Bums and tomato cans. He will be stopped, he has gained zero experience from his 30 pro fights and it will show.

Wilder has not been close to ko'd as a pro. Stiverne has actually been ko'd by a journeyman.

[fish262]

Wilder has not been close to ko'd as a pro. Stiverne has actually been ko'd by a journeyman.

Yes he has, his team took the video off youtube. Duoge Fisher was there that night, he has written about it in his mailbag i have seen the video he was knocked down and on ***** street by Harold Sconiers, boxrec says that wilder was down also.

Please do some research before you comment.

He is packing glass.

[low blows]

Wilder has not been close to ko'd as a pro. Stiverne has actually been ko'd by a journeyman.

B Wares loss was a quick hook IMO. He was on his feet and clear eyed(or got clear eyed quickly). He just wasn't punching back on the ropes. If you ask me if the same standards were applied in his title winning fight he would have been stopped in the early rounds in the rematch against Cristobal.

[TOBYLEE1]

I'm going with Stiverne but as green as Wilder is that right hand he throws is for real

[Caught Square]

B Wares loss was a quick hook IMO. He was on his feet and clear eyed(or got clear eyed quickly). He just wasn't punching back on the ropes. If you ask me if the same standards were applied in his title winning fight he would have been stopped in the early rounds in the rematch against Cristobal.

Well it was a while back to be fair, just like this time where Wilder went down and still won the fight by ko in 4 rounds.

I see what you are saying but i was pointing out that Stiverne has been stopped because people like to cling on to the rare moment of adversity Wilder has faced in his 32 fights, like i said a few posts earlier Wilder's record is 'too' perfect to be true in some people's eyes. I don't know how bad he was hurt since there is no vid but it's all good Wilder will win people over after beating Stiverne.

[hugh grant]

Stiverne is definitely a step up in class for Wilder, but that's not saying much, Stiverne don't seem too good, he was getting busted up by Areola and Areola even smiling at him, while pounding him like a punch bag.
I hope Stiverne wins though, I don't like it when people get the big shot without having had to do much, just like Eubanks Junior vs BJS the other day.

But I suppose Wilder can fight Anthony Joshua in his return bout after losing to Stiverne. But having said that Wilder has a shot at upsetting the odds.

[Weltschmerz]

Stiverne is definitely a step up in class for Wilder, but that's not saying much, Stiverne don't seem too good, he was getting busted up by Areola and Areola even smiling at him, while pounding him like a punch bag.
I hope Stiverne wins though, I don't like it when people get the big shot without having had to do much, just like Eubanks Junior vs BJS the other day.

But I suppose Wilder can fight Anthony Joshua in his return bout after losing to Stiverne. But having said that Wilder has a shot at upsetting the odds.

Arreola is better than Wilder and has better experience too. On paper, Wilder should be an easier fight for Stiverne than Arreola was.

[Weltschmerz]

Just rewatched Wilder against an unprepared and unmotivated Jason Gavern. Really not impressed with Wilder. He doesn't do anything particularly well, I think Anthony Joshua has more potential, especially as he is younger.

Wilder has poor footwork, his jab doesn't look like much as it should for his size and reach, his guard is mostly open and he jumps backwards in an unbalanced way when charged. I know he has a good amateur background but he looks shaky as a pro. I don't know, maybe his power is a bit overhyped too, although that Liakhovich KO was scary to watch.

All said, I don't see how he beats quality opposition like Stiverne, but we will see. Stiverne has to prove himself further too. As people say he was against the ropes with Arreola (purposefully though) - he must move better vs Wilder or he might indeed get KTFO. Great fight waiting.

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The official: Wilder Stiverne thread

Who the foook is managing both these kats??? they been yip yappn and jaw jackin bout this fight for ever....then they wait till the May Pac bull***** is at it's highest peek to announce this fight is going down?? It's the biggest HW fight in years and it's getting buried by a fight that may or may not happen...........WTF man.......someone gotta get with these so called "promoters" and light a match under their ass........maybe they can get their head out of it for once......

I for one CAN NOT WAIT FOR JAN 17TH!!!!

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...deontay-wilder

[dan_cov]

No poll? Stiverne K.O 1