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  • #41
    Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
    You are off with your facts...Floyd offered him $40,000,000 JUST before he got sparked by JMM. At this time Floyd was completely re-established as the P4P #1 fighter and had still had more success in terms of ppv then Manny.

    As for Pac leaving Arum,it is his choice as MANY other fighters gained more financial success once they left Bob....even JCC, Garcia, etc recently will be leaving Arum because he is not paying good enough. Manny has ran out of rehashed opponents, so whether he fights Floyd or not, he still needs to get more varied opponents-and they are all with Golden Boy atm.

    As boxing fans, we should all want Pac to leave Top Rank, because this would open up more exciting fights for him.
    Why would Manny leave TR? Why not support Oscar's bid to end the cold war?

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    • #42
      at this point everyone knows that Floyd beats Manny, in 2009 and in 2050. The only thing pac fans can hold on to is the unproven theory that Floyd is scared...but that has been disproven by Pac's very own trainer. It's tough times to be a pact4rd...

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      • #43
        Originally posted by fighter1234 View Post
        at this point everyone knows that Floyd beats Manny, in 2009 and in 2050. The only thing pac fans can hold on to is the unproven theory that Floyd is scared...but that has been disproven by Pac's very own trainer. It's tough times to be a pact4rd...
        Floydiots and their fantasy wins.

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        • #44
          Umm duh? They've both shown to struggle with each others' styles, shouldn't that be even more a reason for it to happen? I mean I understand Floyd logic with "health first" and all but damn. These days it seems like it's only Pac fans that want them two to fight, I'm guessing Floyd fans aren't as vocal because they know their hero won't do it, even if they wanted it too.

          Fantasy wins >>> real wins for Floyd and his fans.

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          • #45
            Floyd never needed that fight ,look at what he's making vs what Pac is making. He's already in the history books something no one can take away from him. My question is why do people even care now ,if the fight is made. If they fight they fight and then when Floyd beats him it would be more excuses.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by fighter86 View Post
              Floyd never needed that fight ,look at what he's making vs what Pac is making.
              Typical Floyd fan response

              Rather talk about their expenses than them actually fighting, you know, the thing that boxers are supposed to do.

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              • #47
                Maidana and Pacquaio fight nothing alike at all so it's illogical to think that way regardless.

                The only thing they do similar is throw a lot of punches.

                The styles are nothing alike.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                  But Marcos and PAC don't fight the same way. So how can you argue Juan and Floyd don't dight the same and say PAC beats Floyd cause of how Marcos fought?
                  Floyd, Manny, JMM and Maidana all fight different.

                  Manny and Maidana are pressure fighters. Floyd and JMM are counter punchers. However, Pacquiao and Maidana are more similar in application than Floyd and Marquez are.

                  The one thing that makes Floyd special and unique among the four, is that he has a dismal KO percentage. He fights for safety and for points. That alone makes him radically different than Marquez.

                  Marquez KO'd Pacquiao while he was coming forward. Let's get real and look at Floyd and we all know he wouldn't have thrown that punch in that opportunity Marquez had. Floyd is programmed to defend first, then counter. In the situation Marquez KO'd Pacquiao, Floyd would not have been willing to take the shot Marquez took, stand his ground and go for the KO. Further, When Floyd presses the attack, is when there is a lull in the action. And by lull, that can be a matter of a few seconds.

                  I see the point you're trying to make. But the the similarities between Manny and Maidana are far greater than the differences between Marquez and Mayweather. Pacquiao can re-create the blueprint Maidana left a hell of a lot more easier due to speed, volume and general attitude in the ring than Mayweather can recreate Marquez' success and it all boils down to Floyd's basic safety first programming.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by fighter86 View Post
                    Floyd never needed that fight ,look at what he's making vs what Pac is making. He's already in the history books something no one can take away from him. My question is why do people even care now ,if the fight is made. If they fight they fight and then when Floyd beats him it would be more excuses.
                    The fight is past due no doubt. Floyd winning is not set in stone, in any case it will be a hard win. And Manny has the skills to catch floyd as well.

                    Floyd will be remembered for his skills and a lot of negative things as well.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by clmags12 View Post
                      Why would Manny leave TR? Why not support Oscar's bid to end the cold war?
                      Thet would be great and all, but is it realistic? At this stage for several years now, Top Rank and GBP has kept everything in-doors. If this remains the same, it would be best for Pac to leave, promote his own fights where he can then work with getting a bigger list of opponents.On the other hand, he can remain a big fish in a small pond with the welters at Top Rank....

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