Say Carl Froch Beats Groves Again - Greater than Joe Calzaghe

[denium]

Calzaghe would have won a fight between them. Froch goes down as the greater fighter due to a vastly superior resume.

Froch will also go down as warrior, Calzaghe, not so much.

[Box-Office]

Remove Dirrell and Groves from Froch's resume then we can talk lol.

Calzaghe's (close) win over Hopkins is better than anything Froch has done. They both beat Kessler, but Calzaghe won more decisively (and Froch lost the first fight). Also, Froch's shutout loss to Ward hurts him.

Calzaghe was a much better boxer than Froch anyway.

Factoring out wins due to officiating reasons would suggest removing about half of Calzaghe's career.

[ßringer]

Froch's already better than Calzaghe in my book.

He fought tougher competition on a consistent basis.

[Loque-san]

Factoring out wins due to officiating reasons would suggest removing about half of Calzaghe's career.

Some of Calzaghe's knockout wins are premature stoppages, but he was never behind on the scorecards in these fights.

[Weebler I]

Some of Calzaghe's knockout wins are premature stoppages, but he was never behind on the scorecards in these fights.

I don't know why people moan about the Manfredo fight, he was getting destroyed.

[RockyB]

Factoring out wins due to officiating reasons would suggest removing about half of Calzaghe's career.

oh man, that was a lot of bad stoppages... never seen those. I think I have to consider Joe's greatness once again. I mean, he probably would have won every single one of those fights - but damn, thats some (many) of the worst stoppages I've ever seen.

Froch is greater IMO. Calzaghes win over Hopkins is better than any win Carl has, but Froch has faced more quality opponents.

[soul_survivor]

What do you think?

Froch :
Robin Reid, Jean Pascal , Jermain Taylor , Andre Dirrell , Mikkel Kessler , Arthur Abraham , Glen Johnson, George Groves, Lucian Bute

Calzaghe :
Chris Eubank , Jeff Lacy, Robin Reid, Omar Sheika, Peter Manfredo Jr., Roy Jones Jr., Bernard Hopkins, Charles Brewer, Mikkell Kessler

No, yes Froch has the better resume but Calzaghe was more skilled, you see, rankings someone on an all time basis isn't all just resume, but it's also down to skill level and H2Hs, Calzaghe is on top in both regards. Also, Calzaghe was the man in his division, beating Kessler in the process.

Froch has never been able to beat the best in Ward.

Having said that, I'm more a Froch fan than a Joe fan.

[Holywarrior]

No, yes Froch has the better resume but Calzaghe was more skilled, you see, rankings someone on an all time basis isn't all just resume, but it's also down to skill level and H2Hs, Calzaghe is on top in both regards. Also, Calzaghe was the man in his division, beating Kessler in the process.

Froch has never been able to beat the best in Ward.

Having said that, I'm more a Froch fan than a Joe fan.

Calzaghe never fought anyone even close to as good as Ward.

[Primadonna Kool]

No....

Joe Calzaghe fought and beat more former world champions, or fighters who went on to become World Champion...

Its a myth that he did not face good opponents, he has better wins that Carl Froch across the board!

Over proven fighters!

[786]

I don't know why people moan about the Manfredo fight, he was getting destroyed.

This.

It's been a while since I watched this fight and correct me if I'm wrong but Manfredo hadn't thrown a punch in over a minute before the fight was stopped. He was just stood there with his hands up taking punishment.