Should Maidana accept a rematch without MX gloves?

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  • SplitSecond
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    #81
    Originally posted by Fetta
    First pair werent after that i already agreed with you.

    I dont feel gloves would have made difference
    my bad....

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    • -MAKAVELLI-
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      #82
      Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
      That could be true for the first pair, but not the 9 other STOCK gloves. All Everlast MX and Cleto Reyes rejected. In other words, Maidana was not allowed to fight with punchers gloves. No horse hair, only foam.


      can you imagine; the final detail in making a PAC-Floyd fight finally happening comes down to gloves? i can so see it

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      • Redd Foxx
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        #83
        Originally posted by Kiddoe
        What a clown statement lol. You just confirmed you've actually never been hit with nothing. Leave the gear knowledge to those that actually use it. Come over to the gym, we'll give you a proper demonstration. We've got all the brands here.
        That's the stock excuse when someone gets caught talking about boxing when they don't know ****. Yea, we'll fight over it.

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        • The Tase
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          #84
          Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
          can you imagine; the final detail in making a PAC-Floyd fight finally happening comes down to gloves? i can so see it
          gloves?

          it will be some other bull**** like your mustache is too long it might cut me.

          cut your mustache pac or no fight.

          floyd sets more preconditions than a crooked politician.

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            #85
            Originally posted by The Tase
            gloves?

            it will be some other bull**** like your mustache is too long it might cut me.

            cut your mustache pac or no fight.

            floyd sets more preconditions than a crooked politician.
            preconditions? i think he proved vs maidana he can just make sht up as he goes

            "yea i know i said you can use w/e gloves you want aslong as it's approved by the commission in the contract, but right now i dont want you using them gloves, that's just how i feel right now, either use these heavily padded everlasts or no fight, k?"

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            • radioraheem
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              #86
              Originally posted by Garcia's Dad
              Don't think they (Team Maidana) have the leverage and the smarts to do it, especially when GBP and Haymon (who would ordinarily back one of their fighters) are loyal first and foremost to Floyd. They could theoretically put pressure through media/fans for them to get the gloves they want but we all know that what Floyd wants, Floyd gets.

              Such a b*tch move, either way.

              If it doesn't matter at all, why is Floyd so wigged out? I mean, seriously. Ray Leonard had to walk through the firepower of Hearns, and yet TBE has to erode one of the big strengths of an underdog like Maidana.

              Let the dude fight with the gloves that he is comfortable with, not the one you are. All these things matter - once you submit to the other guy's choice of gloves, you have already given away an advantage. Do you think Mayweather would go into a fight with gloves he wasn't comfortable with?

              To go full circle and answer the question - no. They should tell everyone that this fight isn't get made cos Floyd won't allow them to use legal gloves. But this is boxing - they will get paid off, and then cry later about the gloves.
              Leonard added stipulations to big fights as well, but negotiated in the contract though. Look at what Cotto did with Martinez? All sorts of little stipulations, the weigh-in won't even be at 160. Martinez enters the ring first, etc. Lennox Lewis was on Twitter saying that he normally chose the gloves of his opponents. Once these fighters get to these elite cash cow levels, it's really rare you don't see them adding stipulations, whether it's a catchweight, ring size, gloves, etc.

              When Pacquaio fought Margarito, they should've been using 10 oz gloves, but instead they used 8 oz gloves, because that's what Pacquaio wanted. And Margarito now has his eye ****ed up. Maybe it would've gotten ****ed up regardless the way he was taking punches, but who knows? There's a chance he would still have his eyes if they were using 10 oz.

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              • -Kev-
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                #87
                I think that would be a Winky Wright type move. Why sabotage your chance at getting another $3-4million? Another Floyd fight would further set Maidana's post career life financially. If Floyd is giving you the rematch, just take, it'll be more PPV's from people who did not buy the first fight but regret it and would buy the rematch. Besides, how many fighters have gotten a rematch at Floyd? Castillo, that's it. Maidana would be in good company as one of only two fighters that ever gave Floyd such a tough fight that a rematch happened.

                He has a better chance at asking for a slightly higher guarantee and getting it.

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                • Porter's Dad
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                  #88
                  Floyd Mayweather and Marcos Maidana think the gloves matter.

                  Esteemed online posters DempseyRolling and Fetta think the gloves don't matter.

                  Anyone see a problem here?

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                  • Fetta
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Garcia's Dad
                    Floyd Mayweather and Marcos Maidana think the gloves matter.

                    Esteemed online posters DempseyRolling and Fetta think the gloves don't matter.

                    Anyone see a problem here?
                    Im saying he lost because he gassed 2nd half of fight. Oh but go ahead and think the gloves were the reason he gassed

                    He never had Floyd in trouble at all

                    I know you really wanted him to lose and find any reason to discredit the win but i dont think the gloves would have made difference
                    Last edited by Fetta; 05-05-2014, 05:48 PM.

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                    • FerFAL
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Garcia's Dad
                      Floyd Mayweather and Marcos Maidana think the gloves matter.

                      Esteemed online posters DempseyRolling and Fetta think the gloves don't matter.

                      Anyone see a problem here?
                      No, I think these two anonymous guys on the internet know more than Chino that wanted to use his own gloves, and most def. know better than Floyd that was willing to throw away 35 million dollars just to avoid getting KTFO.

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